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04-26-2017 , 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerodox
The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) calculated in 2014 that 500,000 jobs would be lost if national minimum wage was raised from $7.25 to $10.10.
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/44995

The CBO model predicted 6.6M jobs lost by an increase to $15/hour. "So, to get the middle unemployment outcome [6.6M jobs lost] they use exactly the same model that the CBO uses when it advises Congress."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworst.../#3d4fdf3d2b46

Another study mentioned in that Forbes article said 16M jobs would be lost by an increase to $15.

Mickey is exactly right that the jobs lost is based on how high you raise the minimum wage.

Where is this minimum wage thread of which you speak?

I'll take read of that article you cited, samsonh.

Not if you kill 500,000 bosses.
04-26-2017 , 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
Well, yes there is actually.
Hey Sushy, you're needed for some Sebastian Gorka updates in alpha!
04-26-2017 , 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Hey Sushy, you're needed for some Sebastian Gorka updates in alpha!
I'm not allowed in alpha anymore dude. The snowflakes got too upset at my presence there.
04-26-2017 , 03:15 AM
LOOOOOL

Well, allow me to fill you in:

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
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Now, new research by the Forward has revealed that Gorka’s use of a special lower-case “v.” insignia in his signature, which the Vitézi Rend allows only sworn members to use, goes back much further than previously known.

In articles he published in 1998, when he was 28 years old, and then in 1999, Gorka signed his name “Sebestyén L. v. Gorka,” using the Hungarian honorific abbreviation for “Vitez,” which is reserved exclusively for sworn members of the Vitézi Rend order.

The articles predated the death of Gorka’s father by several years, making his assertion that he simply inherited the title from his father, as he has claimed, seemingly impossible.
Hahahahaha. Who was it that had to trot out every time and defend Gorka? Time to strap on the armor and go back at it because Forward just keeps the slow drip of Gorka/ right wing Nazi connections

http://forward.com/news/369683/exclu...-back-decades/
04-26-2017 , 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
LOOOOOL

Well, allow me to fill you in:
Old news goofy. I've heard it all before. Doesn't prove anything.

Let me know when you come up with some conclusive evidence OK.


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“I have never been a member of the Vitez Rend. I have never taken an oath of loyalty to the Vitez Rend. Since childhood, I have occasionally worn my father’s medal and used the ‘v.’ initial to honor his struggle against totalitarianism.” It’s a perfectly plausible explanation, and you’d have to be of a very specific mindset to still pursue allegations of Nazi affiliation.
04-26-2017 , 08:44 AM
Welcome to the clubhouse, sushi!
04-26-2017 , 11:46 AM
Hey pdox, have you reconsidered your sanctuary city stance at all yet?

This NYT article has more about the judge's order: https://nyti.ms/2q2kjiC
- in addition to what I wrote above the judge said the executive can't control spending, Congress does (I missed that in my NMDAA comparison, one of the reasons it was allowed was the Spending Clause which doesn't apply here)
- the judge cited the Sebelius case too, which is one of the cases mentioned by the Atlantic article I linked above

Trump, for his part, has the same infantile "See you in court" response here as he did to the Muslim ban lolol
04-26-2017 , 11:48 AM
I know goofy and bert (& a few other liberals) love posting washington posts articles ITT. We are almost to the point that I can say there hasn't been a WaPo article written that I haven't seen in the past 3 months and I think we are past the point where the mods need to ask these two if they work for WaPo and are spamming that trash to increase views.

Either way, I wanted to post an article from WaPo that you all may find interesting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.6d0fb9923837

Spoiler:
LOL washinton post
04-26-2017 , 12:09 PM
btw if the software even lets you read posts from the main forum anymore you'll note that just yesterday we were discussing what a moron Cillizza is. I tend to avoid opinion pieces on top of that. Pretty bad trolling attempt.
04-26-2017 , 12:26 PM
As we approach the 100 day marker conservatives still just want to talk about the election. I guess that despite holding all 3 branches of government, it's still the last time they remember winning anything.
04-26-2017 , 01:36 PM
so for pretty much no reason at all, trump is gonna drive up the prices of new homes and cost the country over 8k jobs.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/25/news...an-lumber-tax/

National Association of Home Builders-
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"For builders, it'll increase the cost of construction by about $3,000 on the average home, which unfortunately will be passed on to consumers," said Jerry Howard, CEO of the group.
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Builders argue that higher prices will translate into a slowdown of construction activity that could cost 8,000 U.S. jobs and $500 million in lost wages.
and his defenders dont even deny it. they just say that 3k isnt much and that there are plenty of jobs still.
04-26-2017 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
You don't know what a 'sanctuary city' is.
Mistaken. I do.

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Originally Posted by 5ive
And, you have the entirety of the depth and breadth of the world's knowledge at your fingertips yet you said, F That Noise, I ain't learning **** today.
Wrong. I didn't have time yesterday. Prolly won't today either, maybe not til the weekend. But that means I said F that noise, I ain't learning ****?

Sounds like you just want to make fun of someone you disagree with.
04-26-2017 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Hey pdox, have you reconsidered your sanctuary city stance at all yet?

This NYT article has more about the judge's order: https://nyti.ms/2q2kjiC
- in addition to what I wrote above the judge said the executive can't control spending, Congress does (I missed that in my NMDAA comparison, one of the reasons it was allowed was the Spending Clause which doesn't apply here)
- the judge cited the Sebelius case too, which is one of the cases mentioned by the Atlantic article I linked above

Trump, for his part, has the same infantile "See you in court" response here as he did to the Muslim ban lolol
Thanks, but, no, I haven't. Hopefully I'll have more time this weekend.
04-26-2017 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerodox
Mistaken. I do.
That puts you on stronger ground than Trump's EO, which discusses but doesn't define what a "sanctuary jurisdiction" is and basically allows DHS to decide.

9th Circuit seems super unlikely to reverse this, probably goes to SCOTUS and the states rights concerns probably win out, imo. (assuming it doesn't go the way of the Muslim ban where Trump's DOJ seems to have just given up on defending it)
04-26-2017 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
so for pretty much no reason at all, trump is gonna drive up the prices of new homes and cost the country over 8k jobs.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/25/news...an-lumber-tax/

National Association of Home Builders-

and his defenders dont even deny it. they just say that 3k isnt much and that there are plenty of jobs still.
To be fair the only reason Trump is charging the tariff is because he's an idiot that doesn't understand the economy or the effects of what he is proposing.




EDIT: I forgot I'm supposed to be die hard Trump so I retract this post and want to remind everyone Trump = GOATrump.

Just like almost every president before him Trump is up there mashing buttons when it comes to the economy. I was really hoping he was different from past presidents and he was just talking up the bad trade deals as a way to negotiate better deals. The possibility of a trade war with any major player is scary enough for me to want to ask Trump to stop talking about trade all together. In saying this the chance he starts a real trade war that matters is somewhere around 1%.
04-26-2017 , 03:16 PM


I haven't done any in-depth reading on the Trump tax plan yet, but this is a pretty lol start
04-26-2017 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Just like almost every president before him Trump is up there mashing buttons when it comes to the economy. I was really hoping he was different from past presidents and he was just talking up the bad trade deals as a way to negotiate better deals. The possibility of a trade war with any major player is scary enough for me to want to ask Trump to stop talking about trade all together. In saying this the chance he starts a real trade war that matters is somewhere around 1%.
Hot off the press: Trump admin drafting executive order to withdraw U.S. from NAFTA

Canada and Mexico are our 2nd and 3rd largest trading partners, respectively. lol mickey, lol Trump supporters, this is what you voted for
04-26-2017 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
I haven't done any in-depth reading on the Trump tax plan yet, but this is a pretty lol start
I'm not sure an "in-depth" reading of a 1 page document is really possible :P

It appears to be similar enough to his campaign proposal, but there's not enough detail to get very concrete with, I wouldn't think. Like the campaign proposal it seems likely enough that it would almost entirely benefit the very wealthy and blow a huge hole in the deficit, while possibly even raising taxes on some swath of the middle class.
04-26-2017 , 04:52 PM
I hadn't even seen the document yet when I wrote that, didn't realize how scant the details are that the administration has released so far. "There will be 3 income brackets: 10%, 25%, 35%" and don't even say what the cutoffs are, lol great tax plan!

And yeah, I think I figured out during the campaign that Trump's tax plan would raise my taxes slightly.
04-26-2017 , 04:59 PM
I'll be like awval levels of salty if Trump raises my taxes, ldo :P
04-26-2017 , 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
I know goofy and bert (& a few other liberals) love posting washington posts articles ITT. We are almost to the point that I can say there hasn't been a WaPo article written that I haven't seen in the past 3 months and I think we are past the point where the mods need to ask these two if they work for WaPo and are spamming that trash to increase views.

Either way, I wanted to post an article from WaPo that you all may find interesting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.6d0fb9923837

Spoiler:
LOL washinton post
Then the Comey letter happened, etc etc, yada yada yada, MAGAbitches.


p.s. That was you idea of a sweet-ass sick-ass zinger?
Good God man have some self-respect.


p.p.s. Ahahahah I was about to ask you if you know what 'approaching zero' means but you're The World's Greatest Accountant, of course you know.
04-26-2017 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerodox
Mistaken. I do.

You said the cities are breaking the law. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.


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Wrong. I didn't have time yesterday. Prolly won't today either, maybe not til the weekend. But that means I said F that noise, I ain't learning ****?

Sounds like you just want to make fun of someone you disagree with.
You didn't connect how those two statements of mine were related. You're barely ****ing literate. I know that makes you the smart one in your group (The Wil Maxim) but this is Real Life.
04-26-2017 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Hot off the press: Trump admin drafting executive order to withdraw U.S. from NAFTA

Canada and Mexico are our 2nd and 3rd largest trading partners, respectively. lol mickey, lol Trump supporters, this is what you voted for
A pretty small group of people have a grasp on the legal feasibility of that. No one on the planet knows exactly what the economic consequences would be under different withdrawal scenarios. It could conceivably be a good thing, but no one can know with any decent level of certainty.
04-27-2017 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
Then the Comey letter happened, etc etc, yada yada yada, MAGAbitches.

p.s. That was you idea of a sweet-ass sick-ass zinger?
Good God man have some self-respect.
You don't think it is funny that a semi-respected new sources thought trump was such a dog?

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Originally Posted by 5ive
Ahahahah I was about to ask you if you know what 'approaching zero' means but you're The World's Greatest Accountant, of course you know.
Thank you.

      
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