You just quoted me and said

"you somehow think anti fascists showing up to a free speech rally with the intent on shutting it down with violence isn't a giant pile of hypocritical idiocy"

I guess this is supposed to be a general "you," but don't blame me because you don't know how to write clearly.

Your arguments are incoherent. People are having to guess at what you're trying to say because you can't be bothered to make a clear point. I just told you why communism had a high body count. It was undertaken by humans, who almost always kill a bunch of other humans when they can.

Are you going to give us the super secret reason communism is bad that you gleaned from a seven hour Youtube or what?

why did you stop actually quoting me here? i mean you do it in every other post, right?

oh wait, heres the actual quote. who knew the morally superior would be so dishonest lol

I really don't have time to teach you about using the second person and clarity in writing. So do you have that secret for me or not?

you did?
lol this is just pure gold. im just glad the far left is exposing itself as communist apologists who have no understanding of why communism failed miserably multiple times, in multiple countries, in multiple cultures, with the same results

we finally agree on something

the reason communism is a genocidal failure is actually a secret to you

I couldn't care less whether you appreciate it or not, but that's a paraphrase of your abhorrent views as expressed in the Trump For President thread a few months ago, which you were unwilling to provide citations for, something that won't come as a huge surprise to people who've had the misfortune to read a few of your bigoted posts.


Are you deliberately being dim or is it involuntary?

both fake quotes and fake paraphrasing aren't appreciated. as a morally superior person i am surprised to learn you "couldn't care less" about misrepresenting me in a negative way

so you stated your question was actually a point. i have repeatedly asked you to actually articulate a point. you have now failed again. i hate to go back to the magic 8 ball so soon but its telling me yet again that you will fail to articulate what point you were making with your question

Yeah, that is my point. Every exec & business has interest in what every administration does. This article is written to convince uneducated people that somehow trump's administration is special or different from others in that it can make changes.

The article talks explicitly about donations received by previous administrations. It also (correctly) highlights that Trump relaxed limits set by previous administrations (both Republican and Democrat) and consequently received the largest gifts ever made for an inauguration.

Your shortcomings and inabilities to understand this are your fault, not the author's.

If you have a point to make, please go ahead and make it. And try to make it without obfuscation and personal insults. Your most recent series of posts could easily be misinterpreted as trolling which I am fairly confident is not your intent.

It seems that the recent back-and-forth started in the context of a discussion of the violence at recent political rallies when einbert posted about US citizens "bringing violence to bear against fascists and white nationalists."

You then claimed that communism has been a greater purveyor of death in recent history than fascism. Well, it's not a contest. Any maltreatment/deaths of any population caused by its leaders/government is appalling.

In the context of the living memory and vivid experiences of US citizens, it is not surprising that US citizens are generally much more sensitive and aware of real or perceived threats represented by "conservative" leaders/governments than by "liberal" leaders/government (including communists).

Some of your posts give the impression that you think US citizens should fear that communists are on the verge of taking over America leading to the death and maltreatment of millions of Americans. Which justifies the violence at recent political rallies against/involving groups which can be associated with communism.

I feel that there are many here more than slightly bewildered by several aspects of this impression. I encourage you to clarify your views on this topic since it seems so important to you and there seems to be a great deal of confusion as to what you are trying to say.

I've said many times that I don't like communism, but now I'm "apologizing" for it somehow?

Is it that communism isn't racist enough for you or something?

im the only one making any points. einbert peaced out after making his

if jalfrezi and batair were making points then obviously you would be able to clarify their points also. so, go ahead and explain to me what their points were. i asked them repeatedly and even told them at the beginning they would fail to make a point. they didnt disappoint. this is common, pay attention. on top of that, you seem concerned with tone policing and are only addressing me when i specifically called out others for producing fake quotes and calling me racist/bigot/supremacists. i really have no problem with people name calling but if you are going to do so, then at least provide a real quote.
quote me

name calling is not allowed, right? if you fail to quote me, please label yourself accordingly. im sure as a person of character, that shouldn't be a problem. if you can find others doing this, go ahead and respond to them

again quote me

and for your own sake, pay attention to who organized with uniforms, face masks, weapons, and then shared their intent for violence. a free speech rally didnt turn in to a riot. antifa organized a violent protest and thats exactly what happened
someone posted favorably and defensively about antifa. antifa is a group full of people who are openly communist. antifa organized themselves in uniform that included masking their faces and bringing weapons. they posted on social media they were looking to accumulate nazi scalps (im not sure if anyone actually claimed to be a nazi or sympathizer at the event. im also not sure berkley hosts nazi events). they then stormed the event and violence erupted

i explained that you don't need to be one side or the other of politics to recognize the disgusting behavior and the hypocrisy. communism is relevant because antifa members are openly communists. the hypocrisy in their behavior should be obvious in that they intended in silencing others with violence and consider themselves anti fascist

the communism experiment has been conducted multiple times. it has failed miserably every single time. that is also relevant. it would be even more relevant if you actually understood why. so yes, i suggested an antifa defender get a clue because they have a communist philosophy which has a perfect track record of genocide and suffering. the body count is over 100 million. on top of that, antifa actually intended shutting down free speech with violence which is a cute trick for anti fascists. so yes, in my estimation antifa is a despicable group. everything about them is violent and dangerous. you don't have to support anyone at the free speech rally in order to determine that antifa is a massive pile of garbage or even a hairy bush of garbage. now that you have some more context, go ahead and re read my original post

in addition to all of that, here is another moronic post and point
communism is uniquely bad. wtf is wrong with people? its not the same philosophy as nationalism or imperialism. the problems are in fact unique, and suggesting otherwise is moronic. it also highlights my previous point that all the far left participating here have zero clue as to how and why communism predictably ends in millions of people dead and millions more suffering. if you had a clue, then you obviously wouldnt suggest it simply fails just like other failures. thats such nonsense and demonstrates such an ignorant and low resolution picture of communism and its failure

when i say people have zero clue about how and why communism is destined for failure, i am definitely including all the mods in the both politics sections. heres an exercise, instead of pretending you know or demanding i explain it to you, why don't all the politics mods get together and post their beliefs on the topic? perhaps if you feel you are competent enough to moderate a politics forum, engage in the discussion, and challenge others, you should be able to at least be able publicly admit you are clueless and have the humility to fall on your face trying to articulate the failing of the extreme left and a well documented failure in communism. then maybe it might give all the left biased mods a bit of credibility

Is it possible for you to post without insulting other posters? I heartily suggest you try it (hint hint).

You missed my point that I was making with my quote. The author made it seem like these specific companies (not virtually every company out there) had a lot riding on this administration and this was somehow new.

Is communism inherently racist? Is capitalism somehow more racist than communism in your mind?

These seem like really stupid questions but I have no idea where you are going with that.

You have thousands of Trump supporters who stood in line for hours to see him and then you have this left wing weirdo creep disrupting the event. It shocks you that he got pummeled like he did?

People get whats coming to them.

If you want to sit outside and quietly protest thats fine. If you want to come in our house...that's trespassing yo! I can't be responsible for what happens after that.

Mongidig, you missed that we were talking about a specific incident where the person who fairly gently pushed a protester said he got caught up in the moment and the person being pushed is suing trump for saying "get out" or something along those lines.

Goof, then posted a new incident that was unrelated with what we were talking about and called me a liar. He gets confused easily.

It is absolutely true that some companies have more at stake in the near future than others. For example, climate change policy is particularly contentious at the moment so energy companies have a lot of uncertainty in their future (more so than other industries and more so than they've generally had at other points in history) with things like, for example, whether or not the US sticks with abiding by the Paris agreement. Your contention here, that everyone always has things equally at stake, is as misleading as what you're accusing the author of doing.

And it remains laughable that your pathetic response to all this is to lob small barbs at the author's wording or whatever because you have no argument against the swamp-filling that's taking place. That's the **** you voted for, mickey, bask in it.

"He gets confused easily" is pretty LOL coming from the guy who fabricated a quote from an article (speaking of "easily confused", by the way, that was the incident that caused me to call you a liar, not what you're claiming above) because he admitted to "misreading" it. None of us will ever overtake you as the king of getting confused, mickey.

Give mongidig credit, rather than taking mickey's route of playing games he's just like "yeah, I support beating up protesters, so what?"

It's also fun to take the above post and contrast it with other things mongidig says:

The left selectively condemns those who they don't agree with, but the right punching protesters is totally fine because they stood in line for hours! Keep the laughs coming, mongi.

Savage

There are lots of flaws unique to communism, of course. Planned economies have lots of problems and shortcomings. The lack of incentive can cause people to produce less. None of these flaws leads inexorably to death camps and mass graves.

But you're obviously too nervous or self-conscious to share your secret. No one cares.

Yeah it is only a few companies who had a lot riding on trump vs Hillary like clean energy producers, clean energy users (like tsla), real estate companies, banks, investment brokerages, insurance companies, health care companies, pharmaceutical companies, casinos, pot producers, companies producing defense products, oil & gas companies, hedge funds, venture capitalists, accounting firms, doctor offices, gun manufacturers, retail gun stores, and lawyer offices.

And every company that employees people at or around minimum wage. Oh oh and companies that have near epa approved levels of pollution.

Edit: and the estimates 23-36 US companies that produce products overseas. Oh and the companies that are holding significant cash overseas. Shoot almost forgot companies that pay taxes.

But hey I'm sure this is all brand new and most companies didn't care if Obama won the previous 2 elections.

Nothing you're saying disagrees with me, or with the author of the NYT article. For example, here's the overall point my last post was making:

Did all the words you just typed refute that at all? No.

You're being histrionic because seeing Trump get savaged puts you on life tilt, and it's kinda sad to watch.