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04-09-2017 , 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Here's a great explanation for you.

Neil Gorsuch does not belong on the Supreme Court
By Elizabeth Warren
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/...XhJ/story.html
Do you realize ths article was written by Pocahontis? NOT!! For someone who complains about Trump lying you seem to follow the biggesst liars in the world..Susan Rice, Elizabeth Warren, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Debby Wassermann Schultz, Donna Brazil, Don Lemon etc etc.
04-09-2017 , 05:09 PM
The economics of restricting immigration and deporting the undocumented are horrible and everyone knows it. Mongodig's blood boils at the idea of a taco truck on every block or if he flips past a Spanish language radio station. And someone in America rooting for Mexico in the World Cup? He probably has to pull over and take a nitroglycerin tablet if he sees the Mexican flag on a car.
04-09-2017 , 05:09 PM
DWS hasn't been relevant in months, few people pay serious attention to Don Lemon, and Barack Obama nor Liz Warren are nowhere near "the biggest liars in the world". Hildawg has always struggled with the truth, but she's > by a large margin over the Orange Clown.
04-09-2017 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
You can say a lot of bad things about the alt right, American First, isolationists. But at least they yelled at Obama and now trump when it comes to mucking around in Syria. They have some ugly principles but at least they have them. Unlike the trump fans cheering on what they would of chanted against if it was Hillary and what they did when it was Obama.
No, the alt right are some of the more disingenuous people around, more and more so as they delude themselves into thinking they can seduce mainstream whites. Their outward message is "I'm not a racial supremacist. I just acknowledge that race is real and inherently incompatible with pluralism or multiculturalism". Really, they want to kill and incinerate every non-white person on earth before destroying all evidence of their existence from the record. Maybe they were irked by Trump's suggestion that a Syrian could also be a "child of God", but that doesn't make them principled unless they press their real concerns, which they don't.
04-09-2017 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
It's amazing what a group of disgusting bottom-feeders Trump supporting conservatives are.

Fortunately, virtually all of you will have died off within 20 years. And as far as getting back to Judeo-Christian values, people are turning away from religion in record numbers. There percentage of people who identify as atheist/agnostic/"no religion" has gone from 5% twenty years ago to 18% today. Young, educated people are finally starting to see through the bull****.

By the way, it's rather ironic that the Party Of Life is sitting around rooting for RBG or others to pass away so that their regressive 1790's agenda can be put into place.
I was thinking more retire.

People these days don't have values and this is why they are so angry. You don't have to be religious to get yourself out of the gutter. Your stats show exactly why this country is going down the tubes. Maybe you could use a little religion.

This is what we mean by "Make America Great Again".
04-09-2017 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Deporting millions of immigrant is a good thing. The crime rate will go down, the quality of cities will improve and we won't have to deal as much with language barriers.
Immigrants commit fewer crimes per capita than the citizen population. Therefore, just blanket deporting them will cause the total per capita crime rate to go up.

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Thanks to President Trump, we had the least amount of arrests at the border ever. We haven't even built the wall yet.
The long recession and lackluster recovery has seen immigration drop. I recall hearing that immigration from Mexico was actually tipping back toward Mexico, as in net migration back to Mexico, as immigrants leave the country and it's ****ty economy.

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Winning!
You might want to check your prize bag and see what you've actually got there. You might not be one of the few lucky winners.
04-09-2017 , 05:25 PM
What a shining example of Christian tolerance you are, mong.
04-09-2017 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
All the more reason to leave them alone, or at the very least create a path to citizenship: in addition to the cost you cited above of $500 billion, you'd see the economy take a significant hit. These people represent 3% of the population, and they spend plenty of money.
It would be better to deport them all now. It will save us money in the future because they won't dare try to sneak into this country anymore. This will allow us to hand select quality people to come live in this country.

We live under the rule of law now.
04-09-2017 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
What a shining example of Christian tolerance you are, mong.
I'm not Christian.
04-09-2017 , 05:31 PM
Believe me, no "quality" people would want to emigrate to the US now unless they were in dire straits.
04-09-2017 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
How awsome would it be if little Ruth went away! Actually there could be a total of 3 more spots opening. We are finally getting back to our Judeo Christian values.
Wishing death on a little old lady? Cheering on corporate control driven by pure greed? What sort of fictitious theology are you trying to call Christian?
04-09-2017 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
I was thinking more retire.

People these days don't have values and this is why they are so angry. You don't have to be religious to get yourself out of the gutter. Your stats show exactly why this country is going down the tubes. Maybe you could use a little religion.

This is what we mean by "Make America Great Again".
Old, religious, conservative Republican-voting male commenting vaguely that we're going to hell in a hand basket. How original.
04-09-2017 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
Wishing death on a little old lady? Cheering on corporate control driven by pure greed? What sort of fictitious theology are you trying to call Christian?
You guy's have terrible reading comprehension. I never wished death upon Ruth, that would be ruthless.
04-09-2017 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
No, the alt right are some of the more disingenuous people around, more and more so as they delude themselves into thinking they can seduce mainstream whites. Their outward message is "I'm not a racial supremacist. I just acknowledge that race is real and inherently incompatible with pluralism or multiculturalism". Really, they want to kill and incinerate every non-white person on earth before destroying all evidence of their existence from the record. Maybe they were irked by Trump's suggestion that a Syrian could also be a "child of God", but that doesn't make them principled unless they press their real concerns, which they don't.
They have been principled on Syria and their isolationism as far as i can tell.
04-09-2017 , 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Believe me, no "quality" people would want to emigrate to the US now unless they were in dire straits.
Are you from a third world country?
04-09-2017 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
These criminals are costing this country a half trillion dollars. I'm shocked more people aren't more angry at these people. This is why we need to stop them from coming in. They are ruining this country.
This is incredibly wrong. All the evidence shows that undocumented workers are a net positive to the country's economy. Rounding them up and deporting them is the worst possible policy for the economy as a whole.
04-09-2017 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
These criminals are costing this country a half trillion dollars. I'm shocked more people aren't more angry at these people. This is why we need to stop them from coming in. They are ruining this country.
What if these criminals didn't cost America a single penny?

Would you be okay with letting them in?
04-09-2017 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
thats an interesting take. Personally i reserve the term psychopath to the kind of people that intentionally drive their truck through a crowd of pedestrians and stuff like that. The interesting thing is that people on the left are behaving like franken owned him while people on the right are laughing at what a blubbering buffoon he made himself. franken came off as an arrogant highschool kid trying educate someone light year ahead of them. i believe the democrats sided with his ruling at the time also. the hearings were a political attempt to smear the appointment in front of ignorant sheep that could easily be manipulated by a highlight reel and some commentary to tell you what to believe. im actually surprised this worked on you, its pretty transparent. I thought there was a chance you were going to bring something new to the table but it seems like you're just outraged due to a lack of understanding of the rule of judge and have been manipulated by completely transparent, openly biased, and poorly formulated hit pieces

The guy who made that youtube video used, as an example of how gorsuch was impartial and at times sides with the little guy vs big corporations, was affirming that a native guy who killed his daughter received some religious service/ritual before going to prison.



The stupidity of this is that it isn't an argument of right or wrong, it's just what's legal. Democrats don't have to vote for the guy because he has a good resume. Politics play a big role in who they choose, and the opposition is entitled to filibuster, and then as it goes republicans can nuke it and lower the requirements (begging the question of why they even require 60 in the first place).

The real question is how republicans could have refused a vote on garland. Democrats had the senate majority at that point did they not? Was it really just a matter of them not evoking the nuclear option to secure the nomination? Too late now. edit: seems they didn't have >50 at that point in time.

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04-09-2017 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Deporting millions of immigrant is a good thing. The crime rate will go down, the quality of cities will improve and we won't have to deal as much with language barriers.

Thanks to President Trump, we had the least amount of arrests at the border ever. We haven't even built the wall yet.

Winning!
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Originally Posted by 13ball
This is incredibly wrong. All the evidence shows that undocumented workers are a net positive to the country's economy. Rounding them up and deporting them is the worst possible policy for the economy as a whole.
And of course, immigrants commit crimes at lower rates than native born Americans. There is no limit to mongo's ignorance.
04-09-2017 , 07:36 PM
Trump, on the campaign trail, promised to step up where Obama and Hillary failed to deport criminals back to countries who didn't want them.

Trump as president is getting cucked by China and failing to live up to his bold promise.

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As a candidate, Trump excoriated the Obama administration and former secretary of state Hillary Clinton for releasing thousands of criminals who he said might have been deported had the United States imposed sanctions on their uncooperative homelands.

“Day One, my first hour in office, those people are gone,” Trump said last year in Arizona.

But as president, Trump is confronting the same diplomatic and legal challenges as his predecessors, including whether to jeopardize national security and economic interests so that a nation such as China will accept all Chinese citizens that U.S. authorities want to deport.

A former immigration official said it is ironic that Trump and his GOP supporters are stymied by the same issues they insisted could be solved quickly.


“It’s very difficult when you have recalcitrant countries that typically will not take those individuals back,” said John Sandweg, a lawyer who during the Obama administration served as acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which oversees deportations. “I’m not at all surprised to see that the Trump administration is having to release people.”
04-09-2017 , 07:49 PM
WaPo has a look at how Jeff Sessions might bring back the drug war, aided by one of his top lieutenants who was one of the few dissenting voices against the rollback in harsh punishment for drug crimes:

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When the Obama administration launched a sweeping policy to reduce harsh prison sentences for nonviolent drug offenders, rave reviews came from across the political spectrum. Civil rights groups and the Koch brothers praised Obama for his efforts, saying he was making the criminal justice system more humane.

But there was one person who watched these developments with some horror. Steven H. Cook, a former street cop who became a federal prosecutor based in Knoxville, Tenn., saw nothing wrong with how the system worked — not the life sentences for drug charges, not the huge growth of the prison population. And he went everywhere — Bill O’Reilly’s show on Fox News, congressional hearings, public panels — to spread a different gospel.

“The federal criminal justice system simply is not broken. In fact, it’s working exactly as designed,” Cook said at a criminal justice panel at The Washington Post last year.

The Obama administration largely ignored Cook, who was then president of the National Association of Assistant U.S. Attorneys. But he won’t be overlooked anymore.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions has brought Cook into his inner circle at the Justice Department, appointing him to be one of his top lieutenants to help undo the criminal justice policies of Obama and former attorney general Eric H. Holder Jr. As Sessions has traveled to different cities to preach his tough-on-crime philosophy, Cook has been at his side.
The war on drugs is one of very few political policies that has reached bipartisan consensus on its idiocy, but that isn't going to stop the Trump administration from trying it again like morons anyway.
04-09-2017 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by formula72
What if these criminals didn't cost America a single penny?

Would you be okay with letting them in?
I support legal immigration with the emphasis on allowing quality people into the country. I support those who come to this country, learn the language, and contribute to our society.

I would guess most of you have not worked with these people before. If not, you are not qualified to judge.
04-09-2017 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
This is incredibly wrong. All the evidence shows that undocumented workers are a net positive to the country's economy. Rounding them up and deporting them is the worst possible policy for the economy as a whole.
Are they a net positive for the quality of this country?
04-10-2017 , 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Are you from a third world country?
People from developing nations are probably the only sane people who'd consider it in any numbers while Trump's in power.
04-10-2017 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Believe me, no "quality" people would want to emigrate to the US now unless they were in dire straits.
Absolutely they would. There is no other country in the world that gives people opportunities like the US. You don't see people risking their lives to get into your country.

      
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