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Mr. Trump, in a telephone interview moments after the bill was pulled, blamed Democrats and predicted that they would seek a deal within a year after, he asserted, “Obamacare explodes” because of higher premiums. The president said he did not fault Mr. Ryan and said that he was pleased to move past his first legislative fight. He maintained that he was merely going along with the House bill.

LOL PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY

03-24-2017 , 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey

I asked if there was one example of a paper where the editorial board and their converge are thought to swing different ways as (incorrectly) suggested the NYT does.

"Not aligned" does not mean "diametrically opposed."

03-24-2017 , 05:06 PM

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So far this presidency is full of failures. mongo?

03-24-2017 , 05:10 PM

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einbert, I think we need to revisit your post that started this whole argument. If you look back about 200 posts ago ITT (or about 100 of your posts ago) you will see it was about you slandering the supporters of goaTRUMP.

You have since shifted the goal posts 8-10 times, but that is what started this whole mess - not about some guy who was the head of some newspaper that you think he should be held personally responsible for.

No, I proved my original point and then I moved on to connect it to a larger point. That's called analysis. Not shifting goalposts.

03-24-2017 , 06:58 PM

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trump reducing the crime rate and liberals cry about it tho

Yes reducing the crime rate but not the actual number of crimes is winning

03-24-2017 , 07:40 PM

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Remember that when Trump talks about killing the EPA and their job-killing regulations etc etc, he's talking about allowing things like the subject of this long article: a neoprene plant in Louisiana that gives nearby residents an elevated risk of cancer 800 times the national average. This is some third-world **** that all Trump supporters are rooting for when they talk about killing the EPA and rolling back regulations.

03-24-2017 , 08:58 PM

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lol

What else do they get elected to do?

03-24-2017 , 09:06 PM

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The "lol" is that this tweet was written shortly before the bill was pulled, thus preventing a vote from taking place

03-24-2017 , 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by adios

What else do they get elected to do?

Adios,

This whole paying attention thing is tough.

03-24-2017 , 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

The "lol" is that this tweet was written shortly before the bill was pulled, thus preventing a vote from taking place

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Originally Posted by samsonh

Adios,

This whole paying attention thing is tough.

Wow you guys aren't getting what Clizza was getting at but I'm not surprised.

Hint: Don't pull the bill and go on the record. Folks in Congress don't like to take votes that opponents can use against them in future campaigns.

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03-24-2017 , 10:11 PM

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Wow you guys aren't getting what Clizza was getting but I'm not surprised.

Oh for sure, Cillizza's timeline has him telling people "GIVE ME A BREAK, THE SITUATION CHANGED" after they laughed him for that tweet because we don't get it, you do.

LOL adios

03-24-2017 , 10:26 PM

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Oh for sure, Cillizza's timeline has him telling people "GIVE ME A BREAK, THE SITUATION CHANGED" after they laughed him for that tweet because we don't get it, you do.

LOL adios

Wow just go read his columns, he isn't a TRUMP fan.

Latest Column Knocking TRUMP

Quote:

Donald Trump was elected in large part on one, loud promise: I know how to make deals these normal politicians don't.

Part of that mystique — as outlined in his best-selling book “The Art of the Deal” — is the willingness to call his rival's bluff, to put his cards on the table and ask everyone else to do the same.

That's what Trump did Thursday night after a postponement of the planned vote to begin the process of reforming the Affordable Care Act. House Republicans needed to put up or shut up, Trump insisted. Despite being told the votes simply weren't there, Trump pushed forward — arguing that it was now or never.

It was vintage Trump, taking a gamble no other typical politician would take: Force a vote on a massive part of your legislative agenda with an uncertain outcome.

Then Trump blinked.

Hours after Trump huddled with Speaker Paul D. Ryan at the White House, he told The Post's Bob Costa that he had decided congressional Republicans should pull the legislation. The votes simply weren't there, and the possibility of real embarrassment on the House floor existed.

Sure. But, Trump was elected as an outsider — someone who ran against the system. Why not force that system to go on the record with either their support or opposition?

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03-24-2017 , 11:16 PM

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https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/st...93157055107072

03-24-2017 , 11:38 PM

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Not all trump supporters are racist but just about all racist are trump supporters. Comparing the two parities on racism and pretending they are the same is way wrong.

03-25-2017 , 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by adios

Wow just go read his columns, he isn't a TRUMP fan.

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LOL. As someone later pointed out one of the congressmen they ran the ad for had even said they were gonna vote no on the bill.

03-25-2017 , 07:25 PM

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Uhh yeah, I know? He was ready to go and congratulate Trump on doing at least one thing right and Trump still went and ****ed it up. It was hilarious, and it's still hilarious that you don't seem to get it.

Anyway, this came from alpha:

LOL. As someone later pointed out one of the congressmen they ran the ad for had even said they were gonna vote no on the bill.

LOL you are making stuff up. No he wasn't actually. After about 3 scheduled votes previously with the Republicans pulling out he knew they wouldn't vote unless they knew it would pass. Anybody reading the article can see that. You were just ignorant about him being a person that doesn't like TRUMP. It is clear that he was mocking TRUMP and the Republicans for being gutless. Pretty much every column he writes is about TRUMP and pointing out that he's a fraud.

Do you think the Repubs should have gone on the record?

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03-25-2017 , 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by adios

Anybody reading the article can see that.

I'm not talking about any articles, I'm talking about the tweet that got you heated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by adios

You were just ignorant about him being a person that doesn't like TRUMP.

lol, I'm a WaPo subscriber, pretty sure I have a much better idea of who Chris Cillizza is than you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by adios

It is clear that he was mocking TRUMP and the Republicans for being gutless.

Pretty clear you're wrong, LOL

That tweet just gives and gives and gives, you can't stop making yourself look foolish over it!

03-25-2017 , 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JiggsCasey

Do you understand the difference between a newspapers' editorial board, and the general direction of its news coverage? They are not often aligned, ideologically.

Generally speaking, they are. And when there isn't a single exception over 60 years it's not random coincidence. But thanks for playing.

03-26-2017 , 01:59 AM

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Bernie Sanders: This was a Win for Working Class Families

03-26-2017 , 07:58 AM

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Stress levels are high when daddy's losing.

03-26-2017 , 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 13ball

Stress levels are high when daddy's losing.

03-26-2017 , 12:57 PM

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Generally speaking, they are. And when there isn't a single exception over 60 years it's not random coincidence. But thanks for playing.

Yeah, except for 3 of the 4 newsrooms I've worked for, one of which there was open rebellion of the editorial board's NIMBY policy on renewable infrastructure... You don't know what you're talking about.

When an editorial board takes a pro-business, pro-profit, socially conservative approach towards local development, regulation or progress... generally speaking, they aren't aligned with the sentiment in the newsroom.