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Fair enough. I think the news section is also slightly skewed, but i don't really mind it.

I get my news from multiple sources in order to get all angles, and it's often interesting to see how the same story gets spun 5 different ways.

What are the terms, slanted versus biased? The NYT might have a more liberal point of view overall, but they do tough, fact-based journalism that you can rely on 99% of the time. Compare to somebody like Fox News, who has a conservative point of view overall, but they make stuff up, lie, push propaganda, and distort statistics in order to confuse and deceive people rather than providing them with good quality information.

03-21-2017 , 04:28 PM

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03-21-2017 , 04:38 PM

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How many apologies have you issued for committing that crime ITT, mickey?

The exact amount of time(s) I committed the crime.

03-21-2017 , 04:39 PM

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Donald Trump should be immediately removed from office — before we hit rock bottom
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...=NYDailyNewsTw

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Piece by piece, James Comey and Admiral Michael Rogers tore apart every single aspect of Trump's false claims. First they said that President Obama did not have the power to order such wiretaps. Then they said that they had investigated Trump's claims and did not find a shred of evidence that any such wiretap ever existed. Pushed on the conspiracy theory that possibly the British government was asked to do it by Obama, Admiral Rogers, who again was appointed by Trump to replace disgraced former national security adviser Michael Flynn, stated the claim simply was not true and that the assertion from the White House that it was true was damaging to our international relationships.

To make sure his statement on the matter was abundantly clear, FBI Director Comey said he had the full permission of the Justice Department to speak on their behalf that they also found absolutely no evidence that Donald Trump was wiretapped by Obama, or anyone else for that matter. Mind you — the Justice Department is overseen by Trump's bestie, Jeff Sessions, and even Sessions could not bring himself to join in on the lie.

It was a bombshell. In front of the entire world, under oath, two leaders of our intelligence community testified that our current President repeatedly told flagrant lies on our previous President.

03-21-2017 , 04:40 PM

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The exact amount of time(s) I committed the crime.

LOL. Let he who has never made a stupid post cast the first stone, amirite?

03-21-2017 , 04:46 PM

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The NYT has endorsed the democrat presidential nominee in every presidential election since Dwight Eisenhower. I think it is pretty safe to say the NYT has a liberal slant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Yo...l_endorsements

I'd be curious to know if any of the other top 5 or so most circulated newspapers are that biased (in either direction).

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03-21-2017 , 04:53 PM

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It depends how you define the bias of an entire paper. I think many people employed by the paper are liberal and especially their opinion pages & editorials tend to lean liberal, but I believe their news reporting (which is the most important function of a paper) is, on the whole, not biased and strives for objectivity.

I believe simpletons who cry "liberal media" anytime a NYT link is posted use the former as a sad excuse to dismiss the latter; for example, see the most recent instance on this page.

It's amazing that mickey just could not wait to write a post that embodies the things I described absolutely perfectly:

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The NYT has endorsed the democrat presidential nominee in every election since Dwight Eisenhower. I think it is pretty safe to say the NYT has a liberal slant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Yo...l_endorsements

I'd be curious to know if any of the other top 5-10 most circulated newspapers are that biased (in either direction).

To answer your question btw, the Dallas Morning News went 75 years without endorsing a Democrat (they endorsed Hillary to break that streak because Trump is uniquely terrible)

03-21-2017 , 05:03 PM

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It really isn't that amazing that I pointed out how liberal the NYT is. How else would you go about proving a paper has a slant other than pointing out facts such as I did?

The Dallas morning news isn't quite a top 10 paper, but thank you for posting I do find it interesting that there is another big paper that is as biased as the NYT.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

03-21-2017 , 05:12 PM

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These are Pulitzer Prizes the NYT has won since 2010:

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2010: Michael Moss, in Explanatory Reporting, for an investigative feature on food safety (e.g., contaminated meat); Matt Richtel, in National Reporting, for a series on the dangers of distracted driving; Sheri Fink of ProPublica in collaboration with The New York Times Magazine, in Investigative Reporting, for “The Deadly Choices At Memorial” about Hurricane Katrina survivors (award shared with the Philadelphia Daily News).[4][5]
2011: Clifford J. Levy and Ellen Barry, in International Reporting, for their “Above the Law” series, which examined abuse of power in Russia, showing how authorities had jailed, beaten or harassed citizens who opposed them; and David Leonhardt, in Commentary, for his weekly column “Economic Scene” which offered perspectives on the formidable problems confronting America, from creating jobs to recalibrating tax rates.[6]
2012: David Kocieniewski, in Explanatory Reporting, for his series on tax avoidance; and Jeffrey Gettleman, in International Reporting, for his reports on famine and conflict in East Africa.[7][8]
2013: David Barstow and Alejandra Xanic von Bertrab, in Investigative Reporting, for describing bribery by Walmart in Mexico; New York Times staff, in Explanatory Reporting, for examining global business practices of Apple Inc. and other technology companies; David Barboza, in International Reporting, for exposing corruption in the Chinese government; and John Branch, in Feature Writing, for "Snow Fall," a multimedia presentation about avalanches.[9]
2014: Tyler Hicks, in Breaking News Photography, for his compelling pictures that showed skill and bravery in documenting the unfolding terrorist attack at Westgate mall in Kenya; Josh Haner, in Feature Photography, for his moving essay on a Boston Marathon bomb blast victim who lost most of both legs and now is painfully rebuilding his life[10]
2015: Eric Lipton, in Investigative Reporting, for reporting that showed how the influence of lobbyists can sway congressional leaders and state attorneys general, slanting justice toward the wealthy and connected; New York Times staff, in International Reporting, for courageous front-line reporting and vivid human stories on Ebola in Africa, engaging the public with the scope and details of the outbreak while holding authorities accountable; Daniel Berehulak, in Feature Photography, for his gripping, courageous photographs of the Ebola epidemic in West Africa[11]
2016: Tyler Hicks, Mauricio Lima, Sergey Ponomarev and Daniel Etter for breaking news photography for coverage of the ongoing migrant crisis in Europe and the Middle East, and Alissa Rubin for international reporting for her coverage of the lives of women and girls in Afghanistan including the horrific murder of young Afghan woman who was beaten to death by a mob after being falsely accused of burning a Quran. John Woo and Adam Ellick produced a powerful accompanying video about the murder.[12]

It really is a damn shame that "tainted meat" is an issue only liberals care about.

03-21-2017 , 05:12 PM

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Read the bolded portions of my post and then read your post again. Consider which part of a newspaper writes presidential endorsements. Maybe wait a couple hours and see if it's sunk in yet, it might take awhile.

03-21-2017 , 05:15 PM

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Trump's America

https://twitter.com/TheRickyDavila/s...54802653646848

03-21-2017 , 05:27 PM

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New York Times is a liberal source. Same paper that said Hillary had a 99% chance of winning the election.[citation needed]

And the story you are getting told is watered down. Trump implying his campaign was spied on by the Dems and Obama and their is massive evidence to support that.[citation needed]

What do we know in plain sight? DNC chair Donna Brazille, colluded with CNN to feed Hillary questions..she is now finally coming clean. The DNC rigged the Dems primaries against Bernie. [citation needed]

Donald never had that kind of pull with the Republicans. They were all against him. The media laughed at him in the Primaries.

The last part is true.

03-21-2017 , 05:40 PM

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The #teameinbert thread has been renamed to "Here is the meta news"

It would be much appreciated if the discussion about media bias continued there rather than here.

03-21-2017 , 05:42 PM

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This is a very black or white issue. Did goaTRUMP "threaten to ruin any NFL team who signs kaepernick" in this video like the tweet that you posted claims or is the tweet a lie?

If you come to your senses and acknowledge that this tweet is a lie I think you owe everyone ITT an apology for another stupid post.

He bragged that NFL teams were afraid of him tweeting mean things about their teams if they signed Kapernick, and he seemed to imply that he would. And you would love that ****.

I guess you're technically right, but he's still a giant *******--just the way you like it.

03-21-2017 , 05:52 PM

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https://twitter.com/SenWarren/status/844301331259183104

03-21-2017 , 07:50 PM

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How many Republican Presidential nominees from 1960 forward have been good ones?

03-21-2017 , 08:17 PM

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How many Republican Presidential nominees from 1960 forward have been good ones?

Reagan in 84 was obviously the better nominee for a non biased centrist. You don't like that choice bc of your political leaning. To assume that the NYT should take your view is to assume it's biased.

03-21-2017 , 09:10 PM

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November:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...50338384023552

Today:

https://twitter.com/kfury/status/844340256933502976

03-21-2017 , 09:15 PM

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This is literally corruption. This is the very definition of corruption. How are we letting them get away with this?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.af34610e6941

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Sales of Ivanka Trump’s branded products skyrocketed on Feb. 9, the same day White House counselor Kellyanne Conway promoted the line on Fox News. (Lyst)

03-22-2017 , 12:05 AM

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Basically, we're at the reality-has-a-liberal-bias part of our program.

03-22-2017 , 12:58 AM

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In the midst of all of this craziness, let's not forget that Jeff Sessions LIED under oath in his confirmation hearings. But he's still Attorney General. What the hell is going on? Why aren't Republicans across the board calling for his resignation?

03-22-2017 , 04:03 AM

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You mean more popular, not better (or maybe more charismatic). Mondale was a much more reasonable candidate if we're comparing resumes.

It's impossible to judge what a centrist would choose based on policy since the spectrum, in terms relative to that era, is effectively defined by the two parties in question.

03-22-2017 , 07:09 AM

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I'm very happy how Trump is handling business!

I forgot the cardinal rule that one can't criticize democrats here, but unsubstantiated claims and libel against Trump and his associates are totally accepted.

Go Trump Go! I smell some strong Russophobia here.