You can't rightfully dismiss charges of your deep level of hypocrisy as "whataboutism".
Jesus dude, your posting on this subject is ****ing miserable. HE JUST TOLD YOU IT WAS WRONG WHEN OBAMA DID IT TOO. Many of us disapproved of Obama's actions for the very same reasons you outlined but unlike you, we didn't use Obama's actions as cover for self-professed civil liberties libertarian Rand ****ing Paul doing the same things.
I think Dueces should either immediately apologize or Chez should write something in green font.
That's why I don't usually counter instances of Whataboutism directly, instead I just link to the wiki on it. It's wrong to its very core. The old "two wrongs don't make a right." If something was wrong when Obama did it, it's wrong when Trump does it and vice versa. And that remains true for every use of Whataboutism, it's wrong on its face.
Thanks to Huehue for posting this in the main forum - Trump on vacations before the election: "There's no time for vacations. We're not gonna be big on vacations. You know, there's so many things, it's sort of interesting Chris - the White House is like this incredible place right, it represents so much, and you're there for a limited period of time. If you're at the White House, and you have so much work to do, why do you fly so, why do you leave so much?"
Well Donald, kinda seems like you can answer your own question for us now?
Even Bill Maher, ultra Lib with a huge platform, probably the biggest since Jon Stewart, lately is criticising this very attitude of the far left. He seems to have come to grips that his party is in big trouble. Yes, he's still taking cheap shots and acting smug but he's also questioning their strategy and exposing it as being wrong. And realizes they need a new direction.
As an independent voter and right leaning, which I think the majority of voters are nowadays and voted Trump, the biggest win the Dems can get at this point is if this Paul Ryan Obamacare gets passed. It's really an awful alternative for everyone, and the only person fighting it is Rand Paul who has the Independents ears. The Dem media should be welcoming this bill in, because if it gets passed, then there is so much to tear apart.
Most Trump voters hate Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell so it's kind of strange he is entrusting them with this so much, even though they have the power in the Senate.
Would be amazing if Trump is playing a long con here on Ryan and McConnell and turns on them eventually due to their unpopularity and puts another Senator in charge of this. After all, Ryan was the worst traitor during his campaign.
Or it could be that the Dems are right and Trump giving favors to the rich with this bill. And using Paul Ryan as the scapegoat and architect on this when the crap hits the fan, and he knows Ryan is such an easy target for this as proven in the past
It's so telling that Trump could trip up on the very same thing Obama did. They both began and got support on this healthcare issue. Somewhere along the way Obamacare turned into insurance giants paying special interests groups paying the bill makers to revise the bill for their benefit. Same **** happening here so far. That's the problem with leaving this to Senators that get paid by Special Interest groups.
And I truly believe Obama and Trumps intentions were pure originally on this issue.