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03-15-2017 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466

You don't need a car or the internet to survive. Sorry.
In a lot of low wage jobs you will be asked if you have a car in the interview. No car no job. There are also places people live that dont have much public transportation. So without a car it makes getting a job very hard.
03-15-2017 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
In a lot of low wage jobs you will be asked if you have a car in the interview. No car no job. There are also places people live that dont have much public transportation. So without a car it makes getting a job very hard.
Which jobs are these?
03-15-2017 , 04:04 PM
Call centres.
03-15-2017 , 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Which jobs are these?
Have had about three myself. And no not delivery jobs. They want to know if you will be reliable in getting to work.

If you dont want to believe me or dont think a car is pretty much necessary in some places. Ok.

Last edited by batair; 03-15-2017 at 04:14 PM.
03-15-2017 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Why is it necessary?
To punish gays, blacks and women. Obviously.
03-15-2017 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Which jobs are these?
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Call centres.
More generally:

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In a large, continuing study of upward mobility based at Harvard, commuting time has emerged as the single strongest factor in the odds of escaping poverty. The longer an average commute in a given county, the worse the chances of low-income families there moving up the ladder.

The relationship between transportation and social mobility is stronger than that between mobility and several other factors, like crime, elementary-school test scores or the percentage of two-parent families in a community, said Nathaniel Hendren, a Harvard economist and one of the researchers on the study.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/u...g-poverty.html
03-15-2017 , 04:24 PM
Phone is also important. Cant imagine an employer would put you on top of the list without one.

Can you survive without those. Depending on what you do, where you live and you already having a job. Sure. If not, its not going to be easy outside of big cities with good public transportation.

Last edited by batair; 03-15-2017 at 04:31 PM.
03-15-2017 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
So, we are rooting for Gene Wilder in the Netherlands today?
Ja boy got schooled, I'm afraid.
03-15-2017 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by The REAL Trolly
Ja boy got schooled, I'm afraid.
Can't count on people who wear wooden shoes.
03-15-2017 , 04:49 PM
Can't count on your predictions re. Europe. I thought an unstoppable wave of far right wing parties were about to take over Europe?
03-15-2017 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
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Originally Posted by batair
Phone is also important. Cant imagine an employer would put you on top of the list without one.

Can you survive without those. Depending on what you do, where you live and you already having a job. Sure. If not, its not going to be easy outside of big cities with good public transportation.
When I was a student scraping by I took the bus to school and work, two hours a day. No cell phone. I currently commute 70 minutes each way. I don't know how I managed. I also don't know anyone who requires a smartphone for work except for management, and even then they are given laptops from work to meet their requirements. All the laborers, waiters, bartenders, and retail workers I know also don't require these things.


iPhones and Lamborghinis it is, then. Who would have known?

Lol
03-15-2017 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Can't count on your predictions re. Europe. I thought an unstoppable wave of far right wing parties were about to take over Europe?
The movement isnt in question. Right wing parties are in the discussion. Don't think victory is yours by any means. From what I understand the Dutch moved right from where they were regardless. The backlash against the progressive left isn't something I'm making up. For the national front to even be in the discussion is a victory.

France and then Germany. We shall see.
03-15-2017 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I also don't know anyone who requires a smartphone for work except for management, and even then they are given laptops from work to meet their requirements. All the laborers, waiters, bartenders, and retail workers I know also don't require these things.


iPhones and Lamborghinis it is, then. Who would have known?

Lol
This shows the paucity of your work experience.

Many people in IT will have company Blackberrys or iPhones. A request for anything else won't be met.
03-15-2017 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
The movement isnt in question. Right wing parties are in the discussion. Don't think victory is yours by any means. From what I understand the Dutch moved right from where they were regardless. The backlash against the progressive left isn't something I'm making up. For the national front to even be in the discussion is a victory.

France and then Germany. We shall see.
You were wrong about this for the simple reason that you don't understand how PR works, or perhaps even that other countries have different systems of electing governments.
03-15-2017 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
This shows the paucity of your work experience.

Many people in IT will have company Blackberrys or iPhones. A request for anything else won't be met.
Poor people work in IT? And if they are company provided, what's the issue?
03-15-2017 , 05:01 PM
Wow, the ability to easily connect and see truth about each other seems to really scare the "supreme" dividers. I'm telling all the people I have met around the world using my smart phone about this.
03-15-2017 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
You were wrong about this for the simple reason that you don't understand how PR works, or perhaps even that other countries have different systems of electing governments.
This is pretty funny. You think I didn't look up what system the Netherlands uses to vote in their politicians and that seats are assigned per the voting? You think I don't know that the French have a second round of voting if no one wins a certain level in the first round?

Really?
03-15-2017 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Wow, the ability to easily connect and see truth about each other seems to really scare the "supreme" dividers. I'm telling all the people I have met around the world using my smart phone about this.
Include a picture of your car.
03-15-2017 , 05:03 PM
If you did understand how PR works why did you think that Wilders would be PM?
03-15-2017 , 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
If you did understand how PR works why did you think that Wilders would be PM?
I didn't after I realized how it works. Even if they won 30+ he'd be ineffective due to the others not willing to work with him.

I was just curious to gauge public sentiment.

France next. We shall see.
03-15-2017 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
and then Germany
nah

Last edited by lenC; 03-15-2017 at 05:35 PM. Reason: We shall see.
03-15-2017 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Include a picture of your car.
Why? That doesn't seem to have anything to do with the social and political opportunities a smartphone provides. Unless I was selling a car on FB or showing off my car's style on Instagram.

Now, holding poor phones 'hostage' in exchange for healthcare is definitely something to share the word about on smartphones.
03-15-2017 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I didn't after I realized how it works. Even if they won 30+ he'd be ineffective due to the others not willing to work with him.

I was just curious to gauge public sentiment.

France next. We shall see.

Voter turnout for the fringe groups may reveal that these people exist but when less of them vote for fringe parties it doesn't necessarily mean less of them exist (or vice versa).

It could just mean the agenda of the mainstream parties are sufficiently polarized that the loonies are happy to support them.

Or alternatively in the US, if support for the mainstream parties is exceptionally high that certainly doesn't mean that the country is less polarized. It may even be the opposite - since it could just imply that people are so concerned for the outcome of the election that they're forced to vote pragmatically.
03-15-2017 , 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
When I was a student scraping by I took the bus to school and work, two hours a day. No cell phone. I currently commute 70 minutes each way. I don't know how I managed. I also don't know anyone who requires a smartphone for work except for management, and even then they are given laptops from work to meet their requirements. All the laborers, waiters, bartenders, and retail workers I know also don't require these things.


iPhones and Lamborghinis it is, then. Who would have known?

Lol
When i applied for my last job they asked if i had a car.

And i said phone. Not smartphone. A potential employer will ask for a phone number and if you dont have one it makes it harder to get a job.


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Originally Posted by wil318466
Poor people work in IT? And if they are company provided, what's the issue?
I pulled cat 5 for a while a long time ago. No smartphone required but my pickup truck helped get me the job im sure.
03-15-2017 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
iPhones and Lamborghinis it is, then. Who would have known?
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