Suspicion and speculation of mooching combined with lording over what people have. Are you longing to become an overseer?

Are we applying this to people who get healthcare tax breaks or just to poor people?

No need to reply since we already know the answer.

Ooh, maybe there should be a law that if you have government healthcare and you don't bow to your middle class superiors then you lose your health care. BTW, if you are medically unable to bow there should be alternatives like averting one's gaze or a small offering of blood. We're not monsters

If they don't buy phones or TVs how is The Man gonna monitor them for having banned healthcare-disqualifying products? House-to-house inspections for job growth.

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Not surprising Trumpets would be wholly incapable of identifying obvious and egregious lies given their leader lies EVERY SINGLE DAY, and usually more than once.

So forgive us when none of us believe trump supporters are in any way, shape or form capable or competent to identify when someone is lying.

Sure.

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Enjoy learning.

What race is he being racist against?

Even if he doesn't interact with poor people doesn't mean he is not qualified to have an opinion on what can help poor people.

No, most people don't enjoy being poor. However, a lot of poor people make terrible financial decisions. Are you against trying we shouldn't try to help them a little bit or do you just disagree with mong's process of helping?

Continuing this theme, Trumpkins ITT now want the poor white coal miner in West Virginia, or the hardscrabble unemployed steel worker in Pennsylvania, to take their kids' tablet away and sell it in order to afford the increased healthcare premiums they're about to get slapped with courtesy of Donald Trump and the GOP.

The GOP has taken all that populist rage at the system that left the Rust Belt out to dry and successfully redirected it into doing the same **** Republicans have always done, taking services away from the poor to give the rich big tax cuts. And all the Trumpkins here support it.

It always amazes me how easily the Republicans fool their poor voters.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilywi.../#30e13108563a

Once again, Republicans are completely out of touch with reality on health insurance.

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1. Don't play coy, it's obvious from his post who he is suggesting from the poor community is being financially irresponsible.

2. What in his post would qualify as "an opinion on what can help poor people?" What exactly is mong's "process of helping" that he was proposing in his post?

Failure to understand the people you have an opinion about may result in authoritarian bigotry and racism.

1. I assume it is African Americans since African Americans women love starbucks.

2. Why did you ask, "How often do you interact with anyone from a low SES?"

This is an older article by Chris Hayes of MSNBC, but it's a great primer for just how stupid Econ 101 actually makes people.

1. Oh please, fine, keep playing dumb.

2. Because his post indicated he has no understanding of the daily life / challenges of the people he's criticizing.

As I understand it the majority of studies of demand elasticity for healthcare (this is a measure of how well the "law of supply and demand" applies) have found demand for healthcare to be somewhere between highly inelastic and somewhat inelastic. It does appear that there is no universally agreed upon "right" way to measure this, so I wouldn't suggest it was a completely settled issue.

However, that healthcare demand would be inelastic makes sense intuitively for life-and-death decisions, both because you aren't likely to decide that it's preferable to die (or let a loved-one die) than to spend an extra marginal dollar but also because in the situations where you have to make those decisions you don't have the capacity to make them in the kind of rational and deliberative way econ 101 assumes.

Another explanation for a relative lack of elasticity even in healthcare services which aren't a matter of life and death is that price is mostly hidden from consumers because of the way we purchase healthcare via monolithic insurance policies. This latter cause could perhaps be ameliorated by changing the way we buy healthcare but it's hard to imagine how you remove the first.

The point of contention probably isn't in thinking that poor people are in part poor because they make bad financial decisions - it's in suggesting that we should be apathetic because they're in some way complicit.

Of course no one really believes so strongly in this kind of austerity that they'd subject their own children to the cold realities of life if they weren't strapped for cash, even if it did in some way create a cycle of dependency. They just don't think that all peoples lives matter in the same way so they don't want to legislate that kind of compassion. This is clearly the way donald trump thinks (and the reason why he's had such a rich history of unethical business practices that prey on the weak) and he's purposefully selected a group of people who agree. He thinks that if people are smart then they'll eventually find their way, and working class shmucks are just marks for the strong to use however they see fit.

Following Trump as he live-tweets his Tuesday morning hours-long viewing of Fox and Friends to the world

The president of the US sits in front of the TV for hours and tweets at the show he's watching. Incredible.

Probably beyond the scope of this thread, but the reason liberals are sensitive about racism is 1) there is an active racist lobbying block in this country and 2) the camapaign against racism has been so successful that racists have to hide their true beliefs. (e. g., "We hate black culture not black people.") Some people are simply dupes who have fallen for the rebranding of racism as cultural commentary on the increasing sagginess of pants. Others are extremely race conscious and get offended by black characters in science fiction.

And here we have an argument that is almost word for word what you would find in a Klan manifesto. Hey, American slavery wasn't so bad. Hey, the Holocaust was kinda bad, but lots of other bad things happened, so why are we talking about this still? Chattel slavery is not so ordinary that I or any other white person reading this can trace our heritage back to it the way that nearly every black person in this country can. The effort to reform the institution of slavery is a telltale sign of white nationalism. It's not even necessary for white nationalism, but in the race-obsessed minds of the vdare crowd, you MUST defend the virtue of dead white slaveholders. The real "evil" in the world occurs in black ghettos, committed by blacks and their inferior culture. The white race enslaved generations of their forefathers, but that was just peer pressure because everyone was doing it. Those people were good Christians.

So when Carson starts talking about slavery as "immigration" it fits right in with the reclamation program. I don't think that's his intention, but there needs to be pushback against the terrible idea that slavery was no big deal, just white kids blowing off steam. Not like that monster Trayvon Martin who stole something once, the blogs tell me.

After more Jewish centers receive bomb threats Tuesday, every U.S. senator signs a letter to Trump admin to do more to stop it

Healthcare is unlike other goods in services in a couple important ways. First off, the supply is tightly regulated by the AMA.

Secondly, healthcare is often times a very urgently needed good, there is not time to shop around for a better price.

Thirdly, the information asymmetry between the doctor and patient is immense. Even if it was in the patient's best interest to shop around, he or she often does not even know this.

EDIT: I agree HSA limits should be increased. I love it because I will incur significant health care costs in the 20-30 year range and can prepay for them now. But this does not help the average American who does not even fund their 401k and cannot afford a $1,000 emergency. The GOP is comically out of touch with the average American family's finances.

Do the ultra-right wingers from Scandinavia and the ultra-right wingers from the US just agree not to talk to each other about health insurance?

Since they talk about how bad Muslims are 99% of the time it just never comes up.

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