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03-05-2017 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Almost a half million people have died in the Syrian civil war all under Obamas watch.

Who is on the right side of history?
So Obama was the only player on the stage where 500,000 dead people have been invoked? monmon, please.

Say Obama three times in a mirror and he'll appear to be thanked.
03-05-2017 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
And one more thing - did you even read the link you posted? Even the Jewish people at that time weren't sure what to make of the news coming out. It took years for them to digest the information. It even says the Jewish editor of the new York times during that period was anti-zionist and limited the articles written to shape public opinion about the Jewish people and the Holocaust. It specifically said he thought all people were hurt, not just the Jews. And HE was jewish!

Again, maybe you're the one who needs to brush up on things and put some perspective on it instead of arguing about something that happened half a century ago when it's easy to make all judgment calls.
Aka "even the dirty Jews didn't like the dirty Jews "
03-05-2017 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
And one more thing - did you even read the link you posted? Even the Jewish people at that time weren't sure what to make of the news coming out. It took years for them to digest the information. It even says the Jewish editor of the new York times during that period was anti-zionist and limited the articles written to shape public opinion about the Jewish people and the Holocaust. It specifically said he thought all people were hurt, not just the Jews. And HE was jewish!

Again, maybe you're the one who needs to brush up on things and put some perspective on it instead of arguing about something that happened half a century ago when it's easy to make all judgment calls.
dude. this does not help your argument.
03-05-2017 , 11:12 AM
I mean, the editor of the new york times and the peons of the country do not set immigration policy.

roosevelt and the ppl in the govt absolutely knew what was up and the immigration dept did not even fill their quotas. it was a complete travesty.
03-05-2017 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Aka "even the dirty Jews didn't like the dirty Jews "
I don't know why you would even say something like this. I support the Jewish people in almost every way. That doesn't mean I don't understand why a government may be cautious about something

Do you think the Europeans were maybe a bit rash before throwing away their European project due to their handling of the refugee situation now?

There is a cost, socially financially and politically.
03-05-2017 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
So Obama was the only player on the stage where 500,000 dead people have been invoked? monmon, please.

Say Obama three times in a mirror and he'll appear to be thanked.
Thanked for the ongoing disaster he caused by his failed policies in the middle east?
03-05-2017 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Thanked for the ongoing disaster he caused by his failed policies in the middle east?
Obama is so busy being thanked, you can get a card to store your thanks on and call a number to schedule a transfer of thanking.
03-05-2017 , 11:26 AM

https://twitter.com/ezlusztig/status/838403106157314050
03-05-2017 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by einbert

https://twitter.com/ezlusztig/status/838403106157314050
This is stupid.

Ted Bundy seemed like an honorable, nice guy.
03-05-2017 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
This is stupid.

Ted Bundy seemed like an honorable, nice guy.
Obama has to be criminal. I mean, there's no proof, but just LOOK at him.
03-05-2017 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
I mean, the editor of the new york times and the peons of the country do not set immigration policy.

roosevelt and the ppl in the govt absolutely knew what was up and the immigration dept did not even fill their quotas. it was a complete travesty.
Well, we disagree. You look at it from only one perspective and not taking the political and social attitudes during that time into consideration. They actually mean something.

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/mobile/en/...uleId=10007094

In January 1944, President Franklin D. Roosevelt, under pressure from officials in his own government and an American Jewish community then fully aware of the extent of mass murder, took action to rescue European Jews. At the urging of Treasury Department officials, Roosevelt signed an executive order establishing the War Refugee Board (WRB) to facilitate the rescue of imperiled refugees. With the assistance of the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee and the World Jewish Congress, as well as many other relief groups in the United States, the WRB helped to rescue or protect tens of thousands of Jews in Hungary, Romania, and elsewhere in Europe.

In June 1944, Roosevelt also directed that Fort Ontario, a vacant US Army base in Oswego, New York, become an Emergency Refugee Shelter. Nearly 1,000 refugees in Allied-occupied Italy—most of whom were Jewish—were brought to upstate New York outside of the existing immigration laws.


Again, you are being really disingenuous here. In the last 70 years you could argue no country in the world has helped the Jewish people more than the united States.
03-05-2017 , 11:41 AM
I love me some Maria Bartiromo but she is shilling hard for DRUMPF on fox right now.
03-05-2017 , 11:51 AM
'Establishing' trump any further is just asking to get investigated by journalists and scientists. Uh, by all means, proceed trump establishers.
03-05-2017 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Obama is so busy being thanked, you can get a card to store your thanks on and call a number to schedule a transfer of thanking.
Is this the same place I can get a food stamp card?
03-05-2017 , 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Is this the same place I can get a food stamp card?
According to trumpism, 'you' never win arguments any more. 'you' fight arguments but never win anymore. 'you' gotta start winning arguments again.
03-05-2017 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
According to trumpism, 'you' never win arguments any more. 'you' fight arguments but never win anymore. 'you' gotta start winning arguments again.
You didn't answer the question Wookie!
03-05-2017 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Majik1973
So now that humpty Trumpty has had his hand slapped and physically forced to watch the how to act like a president power point presentation, (he was given credit on the flip flopping portion pre-speech) how long until we see the Don of old that we have grown to love?
lol 3 days.
03-05-2017 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
You didn't answer the question Wookie!
It's your question. Tell what you got.
03-05-2017 , 01:00 PM
The bests part of Obama being backwards-accused of monitoring other nations for intelligence about other nations influencing our elections is...

Thanks Obama has been made great again.
03-05-2017 , 01:18 PM
It's amazing that once wil sets an opinion he can never change it because...ugh...lol. He is shown that the USA turned around boats filled with Jews fleeing Germany, rejected bills to take in 20,000 children and the outcome was that these people died and he thinks the USA did nothing wrong. This is having no morals.

As Victor said, the USA accepted 30% of their quotas from Germany. They accepted more people in the years prior. They saw what was happening and they let people die. Wil, because there isn't an abhorrent opinion he doesn't seek to inherent for his collection feels this was the right play.

Wil, that was 1944. Do you realize when the Holocaust started? Do you realize...anything? To only start accepting waves of people once they saw the gas chambers and go "this is good" is amazingly dense. You won't find a historian that won't say that the xenophobia of western nations allowed millions of people to die that could have been saved.

Last edited by aoFrantic; 03-05-2017 at 01:25 PM.
03-05-2017 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
This is absolutely correct. I'm glad you mentioned "context". The Regressives just look at raw data, put a frame around it, and thats their story.

During that time,there was a legitimate concern that German spies or terrorists may sneak into this country. Looking back, it appears mistakes were made. In the moment, it may have been the best decision.
This was the logic used to intern Japanese Americans. Of course, mong views this as a positive and the correct move. These people cannot be saved.
03-05-2017 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Bahaha. The EU is dead and everyone knows it. Good riddance. Their arrogance was their own downfall and they deserve it. You keep making those excuses though.
I'm beginning to think you're not only extremely dense, but somewhat unhinged too.

You make a claim, it's refuted, then you repeat your false claim in even stronger language.

I'm not up on internet slang - is this what people mean when they say you repeatedly double-down when you're wrong about something?
03-05-2017 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
This was the logic used to intern Japanese Americans. Of course, mong views this as a positive and the correct move. These people cannot be saved.
History provides the perspective that was not available to those immersed in the moments of its creation.

- Mongidig
03-05-2017 , 01:57 PM
So, you legitimately think at the time the internment of Japanese Americans was a good idea?
03-05-2017 , 02:11 PM
This discussion has surprised me two ways:
1. Trumpkins actually going for internal logical consistency on refugee issues past and present, and
2. In the course of doing so, arguing Japanese internment & turning away Jewish refugees were the right call LOL

      
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