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You know what else was legal? The Gestapo. The concentration camps. The ovens, the gas chambers, the brutal discrimination. It was all done 100% legally.

03-03-2017 , 06:55 PM

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That's exactly right under wil's way of thinking.

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Why do you think the English colonists left their country to sail to America?

Wil, according to your logic the underground railroad was wrong. What is the difference between the underground railroad and your insistence of following the laws?

They left due to political or religious persecution. They also showed up to a wild, open place to carve out a new life and a new country out of nothing. They didn't show up to Germany demanding entry.

03-03-2017 , 06:55 PM

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Who should have he discretion to decide what the "punishment" should be?

How much does the thought of punishing people excite you?

03-03-2017 , 06:57 PM

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You know what else was legal? The Gestapo. The concentration camps. The ovens, the gas chambers, the brutal discrimination. It was all done 100% legally.

Now you're just becoming unhinged.

03-03-2017 , 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by einbert

Citation needed.

So your saying all the tweets about the Jewish bomb threats you posted in "Trump's America" and other Trump threads had nothing to do with Trump?

03-03-2017 , 06:57 PM

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They left due to political or religious persecution. They also showed up to a wild, open place to carve out a new life and a new country out of nothing. They didn't show up to Germany demanding entry.

Wrong. Try again.

03-03-2017 , 06:58 PM

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So your saying all the tweets about the Jewish bomb threats you posted in "Trump's America" and other Trump threads had nothing to do with Trump?

That's not what you said I said. Go back and read it again.

03-03-2017 , 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by einbert

That's not what you said I said. Go back and read it again.

I said you tied the bomb threats to Trump. Do you deny that you did?

03-03-2017 , 07:00 PM

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It's exactly not. People fleeing war is different, as they may get political asylum or whatever. I'm sure the Jewish people who fled to america went through a process of becoming a citizen or a resident alien of the united States. Probably every single one of them. Which is the right way to do it.

They left due to political or religious persecution. They also showed up to a wild, open place to carve out a new life and a new country out of nothing. They didn't show up to Germany demanding entry.

Again, Wil knows so, so little about history.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...tory-holocaust

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The US (and other countries in the Western Hemisphere) could have saved thousands of Jews from the Nazis. They didn't. At one point, the US literally turned away a ship of 900 German Jews. Shortly afterward, it rejected a proposal to allow 20,000 Jewish children to come to the US for safety.

03-03-2017 , 07:01 PM

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I said you tied the bomb threats to Trump. Do you deny that you did?

No, you said this:

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This is rich coming from the guy who was blaming all these incidents and more on Trump's rhetoric.

03-03-2017 , 07:01 PM

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Hate crime: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_crime

Fake hate crime: a crime that didn't happen, but is somehow faked. Like a TV show with a hate crime scene. Similar to a fake bomb threat.

Fake fake hate crime: An hate crime which has been called fake but is real.

Bomb threat: a threat made declaring there is a bomb.

Fake bomb threat: see fake hate crime

Fake fake bomb threat: A bomb threat which has been called fake but is real.

03-03-2017 , 07:03 PM

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The funny thing is that the Democrats could have easily resolved all the current deportation issues under Obama but refused to without Republicans including a path to citizenship.

03-03-2017 , 07:04 PM

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No, you said this:

So how are they tied to Trump if your not blaming his speech?

03-03-2017 , 07:07 PM

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Wrong. Try again.

Yeah dude, I think we know native Americans were here already. Thanks.

03-03-2017 , 07:08 PM

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Yeah dude, I think we know native Americans were here already. Thanks.

Then why did you say this:

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They also showed up to a wild, open place to carve out a new life and a new country out of nothing.

When the truth is they showed up to a place that was already occupied, found out they could take it by force, and did so.

03-03-2017 , 07:10 PM

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So how are they tied to Trump if your not blaming his speech?

You said I was claiming every incident was because of Trump "and more." Now you continually try to twist it into something different. Why can't you just argue honestly? Is it because your points are all so fatally weak?

03-03-2017 , 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by einbert

Then why did you say this:

When the truth is they showed up to a place that was already occupied, found out they could take it by force, and did so.

Well in their defense it was kind of just a bunch of different people hanging out in different areas. I feel bad for the natives too.

03-03-2017 , 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by adios

Who should have he discretion to decide what the "punishment" should be?

It's down to democracy. We make our case, we argue, we protest, we vote ... and decisions get made and changed by various process and systems that themselves aren't immutable.

People sometimes ask why we protest against trump and this is one of the reasons.

03-03-2017 , 07:18 PM

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LOL like you were not blaming the bomb threats on Trump, now you backed down to what some?. So what were you trying to convey in this tweet you possted in "Trump America"?

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03-03-2017 , 07:20 PM

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og, what do you believe the term "Trump's America" means?

03-03-2017 , 07:21 PM

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LOL like you were not blaming the bomb threats on Trump, now you backed down to what some?. So what were you trying to convey in this tweet you possted in "Trump America"?

Let me spell it out for you like you're a child. We're seeing more hate crimes than usual. Some of those are surely due to Trump's rhetoric. Not ALL.

03-03-2017 , 07:22 PM

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Seriously, conservative posters, this is important. Just because you imagine we said something doesn't mean we actually said it. You have to read the words that are posted if you want to understand the meanings of the sentences!

03-03-2017 , 07:26 PM

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Chez, you act as if we are throwing them in Gitmo and blasting Metallica 24/7 into their jail cells. If you shouldn't be somewhere you know you may be displaced. Why are the rules different for other people?

I can't just pick up and go to Dubai and stay forever, can I? You'd feel bad for me if they told me to gtfo?

So is it your view that it's not a big deal to be deported after making your life somewhere for 10 years? It sounds horrendous to me.

I'm not sure what you mean by the rules being different for other people. It's the standard situation of someone breaking the rules, getting caught and being punished - the question is what's an appropriate punishment after 10 years?

03-03-2017 , 07:27 PM

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Just open the borders and let everyone in. Is that what you guys want?

I mean, where do you draw the line?

There's probably billions of people in third world countries who would love to come and live in the U.S.

Any of you liberal snowflakes care to answer this?

I'm curious.

03-03-2017 , 07:29 PM

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Of course it's a big deal - it affects your life. That's why it's so important to go about it the right away. Do you get to pick up and just go wherever you want in the world, chez? Then there's some sort of magic barrier you pass after 10 years where everyone should feel bad for you if they kick you out?

I really don't understand.

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