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08-14-2017 , 07:00 PM
No, it's an actual serious question.
08-14-2017 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Nobody was wondering if it was just a case of "road rage" or if he had been provoked by pointy sticks or suggesting that the congressmen should have known better and stayed home. Nobody spent hours analyzing video hoping to shift any portion of blame away from the perpetrator. And he wasn't even a Nazi.
Who's the apologist?

the guy conspired to commit mass murder and gunned down political opposition who were legitimate conservatives at a softball game. who cares if a person conspires and commits murder against political opposition happens to be a nazi? what?

are you surprised that people talk about the fact this act of terror happened in the middle of violent brawl which involved two opposing radical political groups with genocidal philosophies? it appears that the car attack was not planned (maybe it was but i haven't seen evidence) and an escalation in an already violent riot.

you are now saying but but but the gunmen planning and committing murder at a (non radical) political opponents softball game "wasn't even a nazi". you sound like radical loon yourself. what does "wasn't even a nazi" have to do with anything or relevant here?
08-14-2017 , 07:04 PM
Wait so now all the rioters (people protesting a white supremacists rally) hold genocidal philosophies.
08-14-2017 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
Wait so now all the rioters (people protesting a white supremacists rally) hold genocidal philosophies.
no

any more strawman you would like me to address?
08-14-2017 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
no

any more strawman you would me to address?
Probably because your writing is as bad as mine and never clear.


But enlighten me. Who on the left had genocidal philosophies?
08-14-2017 , 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
Probably because your writing is as bad as mine and never clear.


But enlighten me. Who on the left has genocidal philosophies.
antifa

the weird thing is all the SJW's here are accusing posters of not condemning the white nationalist terrorism when nobody has done that. but...... we actually have, and will continue to have people openly apologizing for antifa, whos actions have truly been deplorable and have a communist philosophy. i realize the leftys here are far too dense to understand why communism always devolves in to a genocidal disaster so they just need to focus on the track record. maybe get out of the lefty media bubble and find out whats predictably been happening in Venezuela also
08-14-2017 , 07:20 PM
antifa in not one group with one philosophy. Some are even pacifist. But alright they are big bad violent genocidal commies. Been fun...
08-14-2017 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
Who's the apologist?

the guy conspired to commit mass murder and gunned down political opposition who were legitimate conservatives at a softball game. who cares if a person conspires and commits murder against political opposition happens to be a nazi? what?

are you surprised that people talk about the fact this act of terror happened in the middle of violent brawl which involved two opposing radical political groups with genocidal philosophies? it appears that the car attack was not planned (maybe it was but i haven't seen evidence) and an escalation in an already violent riot.

you are now saying but but but the gunmen planning and committing murder at a (non radical) political opponents softball game "wasn't even a nazi". you sound like radical loon yourself. what does "wasn't even a nazi" have to do with anything or relevant here?
Sorry, who's the loon posting a dishonest false equivalency about genocide?

Despite twisting my words, I do thank you for highlighting the utter absurdity of fashioning excuses for murderous terror attacks. It should not matter a bit if the gunman was a Nazi or not, just like it should not matter if the Nazi terrorist that attacked yesterday was emotionally distraught or any of the other excuses that were being offered just hours later and are still being perused with great vigor.
08-14-2017 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
I wonder if this is projection or parroting.
It's definitely not projection. People like me are under scrutiny and actual profoessional and personal risk. I risk friendships by voicing my opinion. I risk my career by voicing my opinion. You don't.

I've thought about this a lot. I've come to the conclusion that it's very much like radical Islam and how a Muslim born free of oppression in the western world can somehow take up arms against that very world. It is the same with SJWs.

It is some sort of weird mix of narcissism and guilt. Many SJWs are the most priveleged people on earth, so I would assume it must stem from guilt. Others are trying to out-virtue-signal the next liberal freak with enlarged earlobes. It is a way of showing beta dominance, like, who can be the biggest pussy, and that biggest pussy gets rewarded with actual pussy because they can't get pussy otherwise.

I'm still working on this theory, but it really is troubling.

Last edited by wil318466; 08-14-2017 at 07:29 PM.
08-14-2017 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Sorry, who's the loon posting a dishonest false equivalency about genocide?

Despite twisting my words, I do thank you for highlighting the utter absurdity of fashioning excuses for murderous terror attacks. It should not matter a bit if the gunman was a Nazi or not, just like it should not matter if the Nazi terrorist that attacked yesterday was emotionally distraught or any of the other excuses that were being offered just hours later and are still being perused with great vigor.
1. im not even attempting to equate anything. im calling both groups radical. you dont have to agree with my description but that certainly doesnt mean im trying to equate the two. this is just you parroting nonsense from other dopes. learn to think

2. yes it actually is relevant weather someone reacted spontaneously or conspired to commit a crime, including murder. the legal system recognizes this and it should be obvious to anyone sensible. that said, its certainly a valid point of discussion for others to have weather you care about someones intent or not. exploring this is certainly not apologizing for acts of terror. i mean, almost everyone has had actual road rage. obviously not to the point you were murderous but raging with thoughts of harming someone while behind the wheel is incredibly common. its also common knowledge that people lose sanity in riots. again that is clearly a very different scenario than conspiring to slaughter people at a softball game. there is room for actual discussion in that space that doesn't deserve to be labelled as some radical nazi apologist. get a grip
08-14-2017 , 07:31 PM
I think a good test would be to ask a man if he would be happy or not for his good friend to get a blowjob by a hot girl when on a night out. I think the SJWs would be the ones who weren't happy for him.
08-14-2017 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
It's definitely not projection. People like me are under scrutiny and actual profoessional and personal risk. I risk friendships by voicing my opinion. I risk my career by voicing my opinion. You don't.
Um you know a lot of places its the other way around. Like where i live in fly overland and most of the south. Suck it up.
08-14-2017 , 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
It's definitely not projection. People like me are under scrutiny and actual profoessional and personal risk. I risk friendships by voicing my opinion. I risk my career by voicing my opinion. You don't.

I've thought about this a lot. I've come to the conclusion that it's very much like radical Islam and how a Muslim born free of oppression in the western world can somehow take up arms against that very world. It is the same with SJWs.

It is some sort of weird mix of narcissism and guilt. Many SJWs are the most priveleged people on earth, so I would assume it must stem from guilt. Others are trying to out-virtue-signal the next liberal freak with enlarged earlobes. It is a way of showing beta dominance, like, who can be the biggest pussy, and that biggest pussy gets rewarded with actual pussy because they can't get pussy otherwise.

I'm still working on this theory, but it really is troubling.

uh ok dude, maybe give the pipe a rest for a bit
08-14-2017 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I think a good test would be to ask a man if he would be happy or not for his good friend to get a blowjob by a hot girl when on a night out. I think the SJWs would be the ones who weren't happy for him.
You keep getting it wrong like you are living in opposite world. Conservatives are the preachers of no sex but within marriage and blow jobs even then are a sin.
08-14-2017 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
Um you know a lot of places its the other way around. Like where i live in fly overland and most of the south. Suck it up.
yeah wil, pull yourself up by your bootstraps. man up. oh wait, thats not lefty advice.... you're a victim wil, batair would like to show you how compassionate he is and offer to cry it out together

im jet lagged and strung out on record amounts of caffeine. you twerps probably have another 30 minutes left in me
08-14-2017 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez

are you surprised that people talk about the fact this act of terror happened in the middle of violent brawl which involved two opposing radical political groups with genocidal philosophies?
This is the borderline false equivalency nonsense that was warned about earlier in the thread. Please think about what you are saying. There were Nazis, KKK, and other white supremacists. These groups are steeped in bigotry, hatred, and violence. One of the Nazis killed a woman and injured many others with his speeding car.

Anything more like this and you will be given a 1-day timeout from the forum.

(I realize that you may well disagree with this view. Feel free to express your disagreement in the forum's Moderation thread or on the About The Forums forum.)
08-14-2017 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
You keep getting it wrong like you are living in opposite world. Conservatives are the preachers of no sex but within marriage and blow jobs even then are a sin.
Wait a minute! Giving or receiving?
08-14-2017 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by whosnext
This is the borderline false equivalency nonsense that was warned about earlier in the thread. Please think about what you are saying. There were Nazis, KKK, and other white supremacists. These groups are steeped in bigotry, hatred, and violence. One of the Nazis killed a woman and injured many others with his speeding car.

Anything more like this and you will be given a 1-day timeout from the forum.

(I realize that you may well disagree with this view. Feel free to express your disagreement in the forum's Moderation thread or on the About The Forums forum.)
False equivalency? Like liberals calling conservatives in the forum Nazis?
08-14-2017 , 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
yeah wil, pull yourself up by your bootstraps. man up. oh wait, thats not lefty advice.... you're a victim wil, batair would like to show you how compassionate he is and offer to cry it out together

im jet lagged and strung out on record amounts of caffeine. you twerps probably have another 30 minutes left in me
Has anyone else noticed how often they use posters names. Must be in the handbook.
08-14-2017 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
1. im not even attempting to equate anything. im calling both groups radical. you dont have to agree with my description but that certainly doesnt mean im trying to equate the two. this is just you parroting nonsense from other dopes. learn to think
Your own words betray you. You were most definitely drawing an equivalence (in terms of "genocidal philosophies") between, I assume, Nazis/KKK/WS and Antifa:

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two opposing radical political groups with genocidal philosophies
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2. yes it actually is relevant weather someone reacted spontaneously or conspired to commit a crime, including murder. the legal system recognizes this and it should be obvious to anyone sensible. that said, its certainly a valid point of discussion for others to have weather you care about someones intent or not. exploring this is certainly not apologizing for acts of terror. i mean, almost everyone has had actual road rage. obviously not to the point you were murderous but raging with thoughts of harming someone while behind the wheel is incredibly common. its also common knowledge that people lose sanity in riots. again that is clearly a very different scenario than conspiring to slaughter people at a softball game. there is room for actual discussion in that space that doesn't deserve to be labelled as some radical nazi apologist. get a grip
There are several posters here (including yourself, it appears) who find it extremely important to act as defense counsel immediately after a known Nazi fanatic committed a heinous attack. Searching for any extenuating circumstances to lessen his culpability and deflecting blame on to the victims. That, in my opinion is despicable.

The Nazi will have his day in court. There are a very limited number of reasons I can think of that people would try so hard to defend the act here and now.
08-14-2017 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Why do you feel it's necessary for you to work so hard at finding possible excuses for a Nazi fanatic that mowed down a bunch of pedestrians?
An enraged guy who wants to hurt a lot of people Is different than a person who wants to cause mass casualties in order to create terror amongst the people. We will soon find out his motives. I suspect this was a spontaneous event and not a planned out attack.

If any of you had kids protester/rioter age, would you be concerned about them attending this rally?
08-14-2017 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I think a good test would be to ask a man if he would be happy or not for his good friend to get a blowjob by a hot girl when on a night out. I think the SJWs would be the ones who weren't happy for him.
This is about as bizarre an analogy as there could ever be, not to mention the fact that it's the Christian conservative right who abhors sex.
08-14-2017 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by batair
Has anyone else noticed how often they use posters names. Must be in the handbook.
Oh Batair! Stop it.
08-14-2017 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
An enraged guy who wants to hurt a lot of people Is different than a person who wants to cause mass casualties in order to create terror amongst the people. We will soon find out his motives. I suspect this was a spontaneous event and not a planned out attack.

If any of you had kids protester/rioter age, would you be concerned about them attending this rally?
HE IS A NAZI FANATIC. NAZIS DEAL IN TERROR.
08-14-2017 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
An enraged guy who wants to hurt a lot of people Is different than a person who wants to cause mass casualties in order to create terror amongst the people. We will soon find out his motives. I suspect this was a spontaneous event and not a planned out attack.

If any of you had kids protester/rioter age, would you be concerned about them attending this rally?
Really doesn't matter. The guy drove a vehicle at a high rate of speed directly into a large crowd of unsuspecting people. Spontaneous or pre-planned, it's an action that is likely to result in a significant number of deaths. We're very fortunate that it only resulted in one.

      
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