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08-14-2017 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
The don't hate blacks at least as one imagines "hating" as some kind of visceral hatred, but they do see things from a frame of white identity. I'd recommend you watch the Van Jones/ Infowars youtube video of them going back and forth (it's a long video though). Van Jones sets up the issue nicely. They talk about being civil libertarians, of being against the government when it oversteps etc, but Van Jones asks them, if they're against government overreach why was their immediate reaction not to side with the Ferguson protesters, but to call Black Lives Matter a terrorist organization and to side with law enforcement when the FBI reports clearly show the local government was clearly harassing and using the local mostly black population as a piggy bank, the kind of thing that would set the civil libertarian militiamen into an anti government frenzy?

Van Jones doesn't go into it, but the reason is because the militiamen don't really care too much about government overreach in the terms that African Americans put it, because when African Americans talk about governmental overreach they usually put it in terms taking away from African Americans or denying African Americans something in service of white people or the government being predatory on poor blacks etc, which if you're coming from a white identity standpoint, is something you don't want to admit or you want to negate or you don't understand. While white identity many times sees government overreach as taking something away from whites and giving it to minorities and/or people who "cut in line" which is why they usually skew away from liberalism generally.
This is one the better posts I've ever read. I need to digest this and think about it.

FWIW my initial reaction is that you may be correct.
08-14-2017 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
The only way these right wing *******s could ever be mad at a Nazi demonstration is if those Nazis turned out to be fake Nazis paid by liberals. Just amazing, amazing stuff coming to light in this thread.
I don't like Nazis, I simply dislike censorship and restriction of free speech more. Apparently your side will allow it in certain cases, which is unacceptable.

I'm just happy the courts side with me instead of you.
08-14-2017 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
I kind off confused the Bat Mitzvah and Bar Mitzvah parts.

Please call me by my name instead of that very offensive name you use. Thanks!
It is very offensive on this side of the pond as well.
No one in America uses "mongo" as an insult, but you're not American, so ok.

Un-PC joke perhaps........Bart Mitzvah would be for hermaphrodites.
08-14-2017 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Loaded, you broke ass loser.



Actually, I might have gotten this confused with another militia group I was watching a VICE clip about.

From what I remember Oathkeepers were trying to get the Ferguson protestors armed, so I might be confused. I'm pretty sure I'm correct just not positive.
William for whatever reason you use this message board to describe everything in your life in detail. If those facts are correct then you are most certainly not rich. And the fact you think you are says something about how you view your place in this world. How did liquidating your portfolio go? That's something someone with real wealth would never do because of the tax consequences. But you don't even have money in a brokerage account do you?!?
08-14-2017 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by samsonh
William for whatever reason you use this message board to describe everything in your life in detail. If those facts are correct then you are most certainly not rich. And the fact you think you are says something about how you view your place in this world. How did liquidating your portfolio go? That's something someone with real wealth would never do because of the tax consequences. But you don't even have money in a brokerage account do you?!?
I'm not rich, if I was I wouldn't be here. I'm simply saying you're a ****ing loser.

As far my portfolio, I'm having the best 12 month run of my life. And, you reading every single post I ever write across every forum shows what type of life you must lead. You're pathetic.
08-14-2017 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I don't like Nazis, I simply dislike censorship and restriction of free speech more. Apparently your side will allow it in certain cases, which is unacceptable.

I'm just happy the courts side with me instead of you.
In fairness the biggest existential threat to the Constitution at the moment is a chief executive who utilizes the US federal government like a crime family syndicate.
08-14-2017 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Quickben00
In fairness the biggest existential threat to the Constitution at the moment is a chief executive who utilizes the US federal government like a crime family syndicate.
Without a doubt this is incorrect. Unless he had a way to circumvent the judicial branch he can only do so much.
08-14-2017 , 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Without a doubt this is incorrect. Unless he had a way to circumvent the judicial branch he can only do so much.
You mean like publicly calling a federal judge who blocked his unconstitutional travel ban a "so called judge?"
08-14-2017 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Quickben00
You mean like publicly calling a federal judge who blocked his unconstitutional travel ban a "so called judge?"
It meant nothing, and he was proven correct as that ban was overturned.

The judge overstepped and the Supreme Court confirmed it. It was blatantly obvious when the judge did it, but due to media bias and manipulation of public opinion, it was perceived Trump did something wrong. He did not, and was vindicated through the process this country has created to limit the President's power. Trump was well within his power, explicitly given to him by the Constitution of the United States.

That judge was exactly that - a "so called judge" who thought his own feelings were more important than the government and system we have created.
08-14-2017 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I don't like Nazis, I simply dislike censorship and restriction of free speech more. Apparently your side will allow it in certain cases, which is unacceptable.

I'm just happy the courts side with me instead of you.
It's pretty ****ed up that you think a fringe free speech issue is more of a moral outrage than an ideology responsible for killing six million Jews.
08-14-2017 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
It meant nothing, and he was proven correct as that ban was overturned.

The judge overstepped and the Supreme Court confirmed it. It was blatantly obvious when the judge did it, but due to media bias and manipulation of public opinion, it was perceived Trump did something wrong. He did not, and was vindicated through the process this country has created to limit the President's power. Trump was well within his power, explicitly given to him by the Constitution of the United States.

That judge was exactly that - a "so called judge" who thought his own feelings were more important than the government and system we have created.
lol this is just so wrong. like, you cant actually believe the stuff you are saying. it is not rooted in reality.
08-14-2017 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
It's pretty ****ed up that you think a fringe free speech issue is more of a moral outrage than an ideology responsible for killing six million Jews.
Censorship and limiting speech was exactly what lead to the death of those six million Jews, you ****ing idiot.
08-14-2017 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
lol this is just so wrong. like, you cant actually believe the stuff you are saying. it is not rooted in reality.
It is exactly, 100% correct. Just as I predicated way before the Supreme Court handed down their judgment and offered a wager to anyone who wanted to bet. No one did. I suspect it's due to my long history of deep-dicking so many of you when it comes to predictions.

You're a fool to think my assessment was wrong, especially so now that we know the result!

Maybe you just like to hear yourself talk? Your statement is so absurdly stupid I'm shocked you hit the "enter" button and posted it. You should be ashamed to have your name attached to such idiocy.
08-14-2017 , 01:44 PM
If you only have one "please proceed, governor" left in your trick bag, I'd say use it now with no regrets.

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Originally Posted by wil318466
Censorship and limiting speech was exactly what lead to the death of those six million Jews, you ****ing idiot.
08-14-2017 , 01:48 PM
Did you predict that the court would partially uphold the ban and partly overturn it? Obviously not, so not sure wtf the you are babbling about. A large percentage of the people seeking to immigrate from the countries on the ban list are still allowed in after the Supreme Court decision. You have an obsessive need to self-aggrandize that is only second to Trump himself.
08-14-2017 , 01:52 PM
Based on the things he says, IMO Trump views the other branches of government as an inconvenient problem in his doing his job. I feel Congress has been extremely compromised and if the courts haven't been yet, it isn't for lack of trying.
08-14-2017 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Quickben00
This sounds a lot like excuses racist white people make to use adjectives derived from words originally used to slander black people. I could give examples if you wish, but I hope you get the point.



Making excuses is a real bad look. Best just to recognize a mistake was made and learn from it and move on.


Monger has a commonly used definition. It is synonymous with peddler.

"The poster is a peddler (monger) of narratives."
08-14-2017 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by whosnext
For what it is worth, I agree with this.
Then ban posters of the most egregious content and let Mat decide whether they get to continue posting elsewhere. Like there's an obvious response to a post accusing a Jewish person of paying actors to act as Nazi's in order to discredit Unite the Right and a milquetoast threat of a timeout isn't it. Kinda like Trump and the many sides ****.
08-14-2017 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dereds
Then ban posters of the most egregious content and let Mat decide whether they get to continue posting elsewhere. Like there's an obvious response to a post accusing a Jewish person of paying actors to act as Nazi's in order to discredit Unite the Right and a milquetoast threat of a timeout isn't it. Kinda like Trump and the many sides ****.
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08-14-2017 , 02:07 PM
At this point I think everyone (but the neonazis) would be happy if Trump stepped down, Pence pardoned his entire crime family syndicate, and we all just moved on.
08-14-2017 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Censorship and limiting speech was exactly what lead to the death of those six million Jews, you ****ing idiot.
This is outright bull****. Nazi ideas have been banned in much of Europe for decades. By your logic they should have fallen to Nazis 50 years ago.

But I wasn't even criticizing you on that front. I was criticizing you for slurping up the "Soros fake Nazis" right wing propaganda. You think you can just spread you antisemitic bull**** without getting called out? Go **** yourself, you diet Nazi piece of ****.
08-14-2017 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
This is outright bull****. Nazi ideas have been banned in much of Europe for decades. By your logic they should have fallen to Nazis 50 years ago.
And that's a stupid law. You can't ban ideas.

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But I wasn't even criticizing you on that front. I was criticizing you for slurping up the "Soros fake Nazis" right wing propaganda. You think you can just spread you antisemitic bull**** without getting called out? Go **** yourself, you diet Nazi piece of ****.
I've never said an antisemitic thing in my life. I have no idea where you're getting this from. If I dislike someone who HAPPENS to be Mexican, does that mean I hate Latinos?

What are you even talking about here?
08-14-2017 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I'm not rich, if I was I wouldn't be here. I'm simply saying you're a ****ing loser.

As far my portfolio, I'm having the best 12 month run of my life. And, you reading every single post I ever write across every forum shows what type of life you must lead. You're pathetic.
Wil I certainly don't read every post, not even every post itt. I don't have that kind of time. Posting stats thread shows you have an abundance of time to post, which is sad! I like calling you out for the fraud you are. You are embarassing yourself. But please do not stop!
08-14-2017 , 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
I kind off confused the Bat Mitzvah and Bar Mitzvah parts.
If you were Jewish, you would not confuse them. Nor would you tout far-right anti-Semitic conspiracy theories against George Soros.
08-14-2017 , 02:35 PM
Anyway, here's the president's view. Heather Heyer was 'an innocent American' and neo-Nazis -- you know, like the men marching in Charlottesville under the actual banner of the German Nazi Party -- are 'repugnant'.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.069d634c7e56

      
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