reposting this so it won't get buried in the previous page
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Originally Posted by Iron Tamer
The idea that its the left that allows hate groups to exist in America is silly.
Its the American ideal that makes it happen. America is a land more governed by laws than any other. This allows some bad things to happen but its the source of American exceptionalism.
I completely disagree, and I think the idea of American exceptionalism is a farce.
This country was built on the exploitation of Native Americans, and then Africans, for the advancement of white Europeans.
mongidig, JiggyMac, BroadwaySushy, pay attention here and you'll learn something about America.
Slavery and The Civil War happened a long time ago, but you can still hear the echos in America, and you can still see very clear dividing lines. Politically, the country is generally split between the north and south.
Look at these US presidential election maps going back 25 years. Now look at this map of slave states, states open to slavery, and prohibitionist states.
Rather interesting, isn't it? Can you see the clear dividing lines?
This is just politically. There are dividing socio-economic lines all throughout America. The criminal justice system is entirely stacked against black people.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kim-fa...b_8078586.html
(2) When black people are arrested for a crime, they are convicted more often than white people arrested for the same crime.
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(3) When black people are convicted of a crime, they are more likely to be sentenced to incarceration compared to whites convicted of the same crime.
https://www.aclu.org/other/race-and-death-penalty
Education in America is not working to elevate the lives of black people.
http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/in-pl...tunity-n305196
Black people do not have equal status in our country. They don't have equality of opportunity, or representation. Compare 1 black president with 44 white presidents.
So The American Civil War may have happened a long time ago, and black people have had the right to vote for a long time, and it's been a long time since the 1964 Civil Rights Act, but there is still no equality for black people. Legally, one would expect there to be, but because of widespread racism that remains, particularly in the south, they do not have equality.
That is why it is so disgusting to see a bunch of far right wing groups like the KKK and Neo-Nazis gather to "unite the right" under Trump, and protest the removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee, who was a heroic Civil War General for the Confederacy. This is a man that led troops into battle against fellow country men to try to retain the legal right to own black people as slaves. This is also why it is so important to fight against bigotry, and for equality anywhere and everywhere there is a fight to be had.
This is just mentioning black people, this says nothing of Muslims, the LGBT, Jews, which are all people that these hate groups discriminate, and commit hate crimes against.
So for all of you suggesting the opposition to these hate groups in Charlottesville should have just stayed home, while at the same time saying the hate groups had every right to be there, own up to the side you're on, because we all know what side it is.