Hmmm. Both are personal expressions, aren't they? You're the one that claimed a child cannot form opinions to express without help from parents; just wanted to see if you applied the same rigor to all forms of expression.

You start it. Why would you answer when you impose on people with your political opinions of their personal identity and you prefer to start imposing on them when young?

You really contrived that one.

Personal sense of identity is a lot different than libruls are cucks or conservatives are right wing nut jobs, or jesus is real and gay people are satan. It's a ridiculous and false equivocation.

If children feel like expressing themselves as the opposite gender of their own volition, then yes they should be able to decide for themselves what clothes they wear, and how they cut their hair, and what name and pronouns they are referred to as.

Children getting hormone therapy and surgery is different and a lot more complicated, and as I said, I don't take a strong position on this because I don't know much about medicine or psychology.

Ah, so that's a prime stupefaction. Whatever makes you feel better about imposing, creep.

It's not a decision numbnuts.

Bull****, ****head.

JiggyMinder

Gender expression is certainly a decision.

You just finished saying children are stupid and can't make logical decisions in how they express themselves.

Expression is expression. Either you have the ability to express yourself logically with sound reasoning or you don't. This applies to political views just as much as gender expression. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

Minding other folk's gender is a _______?

I'll bite. I think it's wrong for a parent to pressure a child into any unnecessary surgery or hormone treatment. Do you RWNJs agree?


I also think it is wrong for a parent to pressure a child into blindly following any particular ideology, rather than teaching them to think for themselves and teaching them why being a decent human is important. Do you RWNJs agree?

yes

but 1 is far worse than 2

2 is just part of the human condition, catholic parents raise catholic children, 1 is child abuse

So you added pressure to the scenario and....

....iron jaws of political exploiting children and identity snapped.

These conservatives are imagining other people's kids' genitalia while gossiping about the parents with surgery and hormone pressure narratives.

This little girl is super annoying.

Who's the girl in green? Hubba hubba!

When did Chris Mathews move to Fox?

Enough with the gender talk. What is wrong with you people?

I agree there are degrees, but both are wrong. An important factor is that 2 is very common and 1 is extremely rare. I would only be guessing, but I'd say there are probably more cases of 2 being taken to the extreme and into the realm of child abuse. Also, I'm not saying it is limited to any particular ideology. The point is that judging an issue by pointing out extreme examples and using those as representative is not sound.

No.

It seems you have a little hypocrisy issue going on.

You've conflated political information with personal identity. Lol

rekt

I recently read a story of a kid who's mother encouraged him to be gay when he became a teenager. He was confused and didn't understand what was going on but did what his mother wanted, so he had a boyfriend for multiple years. His mother, apparently, really wanted a gay son to use him as a form of virtue-signalling to her liberal friends. He realized later he wasn't gay and he now resents her for it.

Now, we can see doing this exactly the other way, also, if her son was gay and she encouraged him to be straight. I have no issue with the child being gay or not, what I have issue with is the parent's motives.

Yes, leftism is a virus.

Pffffffffftttttttttt.