Can you do everyone in this thread a favor and look up the Fox news viewership numbers and how that would scale to the number of people in the United States?

This is REALLY laughable. My father in law is a conservative and my brother in law is a liberal. Neither represent "America".

You should rethink some things.

What does that have to do with my anecdotal sample size of around 10?

This is the experience I have with trumpers. They also think we are on the brink of being a nation ruled by sharia. Which is laughable.

What does Fox News viewership have to do with knowing whats going on? It's an entertainment show.

That's not how it is Wil although if you behaved as if it is then we get to the much the same place when it comes to posting.

Feelings matter a lot and if we're decent people we will behave appropriately but this is usually a minor issue as far as the forum is concerned. The major reason I'm so opposed to expressing certain view is that people suffer from serious prejudice, discrimination, bullying and violence etc. How it's discussed matters - some disagree it make any difference but whether I'm right or wrong it is the reason.

Considering that my tax dollars allow them to continue to live their miserable, pathetic God-guns-and-grits existences, I doubt they're laughing all that much. Without people like me, they couldn't get up in the morning; after all, the 17% of counties in the US won by Hillary Clinton in 2016 provide a whopping 64% of this country's annual GDP.

And, as far as the "average liberal", no, we don't do any such thing. I've got nearly 16000 posts on this site and I doubt you'll be able to find many in which I've complained about my quality of life or the state of this nation. Meanwhile, it's righties who rant constantly about violations of "religious freedom" and the country being taken away from whites, etc.

Remember, the right's own narrative was that Trump becomes popular with them because of how evil and horrid they thought President Blackenstein was, and how poorly things were going for your average middle American. They pushed that line of thought, not me.

It has to do with your sample size being ****ing ******ed.

Like when CNN admitted it was a nothingburger and Rachel Maddow leaked tax returns that Trump leaked?

See, you can't even get your head around why those tax returns were extremely important and revealing.

Feelings don't mean dick. If you want to warp reality then that is up to you, but when you and people like you aren't in power a lot of people are in for a ride awakening.

You can't change facts. You may force debate through threat but that doesn't mean you won a thing.

And I don't think you can get your head around why they weren't. It was breaking news and was her all-time biggest show and no one gives a **** about it now. Ten years from now people will say "what? What tax returns?"

I live in a world where I know a lot of people who voted for Trump. I mean A LOT including very close family members. Your sentence above isn't even close to my experience and I'd be shocked if I'm am outlier. Many of them have straight up admitted to me they have stopped paying attention.

This is pretty much the worst post I've ever seen. At least Wil tries. This is just incoherent drivel. Conservatives have all the money, eh? Any reason places like West Virginia, Mississippi, Alabama, and Kentucky are mired in incomprehensible levels of poverty?

Well then you live in a ******ed world

These guys and gals are paying attention.

I'll give you one thing, yes, only a small percentage of the US adult population (250m?) watches ANY of these political talking heads shows on a nightly basis; most average between 2 and 6 million viewers every evening. It's not like Fox infects everyone. However, when you take into account that they're on spewing nonsense 24/7, the number of unique watchers they hit every month is still significant.

Did you read what I wrote? We disagree about feelings but that's besides the point. We can disagree about that as well if you like, I'm not asking you to agree about anything, I'm just explaining my reasons to you.

and stop using '******ed' please

You mean people who defraud the government out of millions of dollars by performing unnecessary surgeries endangering the lives of medicare patients?

300 million people live in the US. Fox news is essentially the only conservative media I can think of outside of drudge report, which I don't really know much about. Please report back with numbers and effect on the us population vs the media considered "liberal".

You made the claim, back it up.

No, you can ban me if you wish or ban the word. It's pretty easy.

Keep banning everything until you get the type of conversation you deem appropriate. Maybe one day you'll end up with goofgaller blowing fly every post and 2+2 politics will be perfect.

"******ed" is a perfectly acceptable word and it has been for many years. If you have an issue with it, then make a mod ruling on it and end the discussion like you do with others because you want to protect something or other.

This is not how the world works.

I've made a mod ruling on it. Don't use it.

If you think the ruling is mistaken then so what? - I'm not asking you to agree with me. Nothing about any discussion will be harmed by going along with it. No arguments will be won or lost.

LOL what.

I was just clowning on you for having literally no idea what you were talking about. Just like Trump doesn't. You just spew words until you click "post".

No **** you're satisfied. That's OUR point. You're aggressively, willfully uninformed! You don't even know what the ****ing Drudge Report is, you seem to have forgotten all of the context around O'Keefe's bull**** "nothingburger" video, you just hate that we look down on you and so you're happy we're upset.

Because you don't get to dictate language due to your feelings. You may not like a word but that doesn't mean others get to or not get to use it.

If I had a family member who was actually ******ed and someone in conversation used it, I would not be offended. Just as I wouldn't be offended if I had a family member who was a "small person" and someone uses the word "midget".

You being offended, or even worse, being offended for someone else, doesn't dictate another person's usage of language, especially if it's a word in common usage.

That being said, I guess you can just continue modding words and beleifs until you get what you want. Don't think it isn't ridiculous, though. And people notice

Lol, you can't look down on me, fly, you are beneath me. How could you possibly look down on your superiors?

Hahaha. Mfer please. Get off my dick, *****.

Huh? Was this intended to be a response to what I said, because it doesn't have anything to do with it. Hit reply to the wrong person or something?

By the way, 323 million people live in the US, and my figure was a guess as to how many of them are adults, which would be the relevant metric when discussing potential political TV watchers. Appears the actual adult-population figure is 245.3m.

No, it isn't.