What is "the law" that you are referring to? Is it the discriminatory anti-trans restroom bills in various states that aim to restrict what public restrooms trans men and women can use? You do know these bills are the reason for the discussion on transgender people using public restrooms, right?

Thank you.

Hey, y'all, do you guys know Nancy Pelosi loves capitalism?

You mean the one the gender-fluids pushed for with their postmodernist bull****? Yeah, that one.

http://www.vogue.com/article/gigi-ha...social_twitter

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ly-weekly.html


Nothing to see here, carry on.

There is help though. She even addresses being trans and the bathroom issues:

Does she support the Second Amendment now too?
Will we have to pry the rifle out of the Crypt Keeper's cold, dead hands?
Might have to look into this.

The new Democrat platform is making Schumer practically Trump's (how did Colbert put it?)...cock holster.

This depends somewhat on your definition of "man" and "gender", doesn't it?

Certainly you wouldn't object to someone saying a 19 year old is not a child because they define child as 'someone under 18' right? So why do you object to someones personal definition of what a 'man' is to them, while at the same time claiming you have the true definition? This is not a discrimination issue, it's a semantic one.

Saying wil is being discriminatory simply because he views the world differently from you is well...the exact thing you are accusing him of doing.

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@ DoOrDoNot. It does of course depend on definitions & meaning (everything does). I'm ruling based on my understanding of the commonly understood meanings and usage. If you're discussing a sensitive topic and mean something that could be commonly understood as offensive then you need to make yourself very clear.

Personally, I don't buy into the postmodernist dogma that gender does not equal sex. Those who think that are the ones upon which the burden should fall, not the other way around.

grand jury impaneled

Ok, i get that. The thing is though, wil is what he defines to be male and for him that definition is part of his identity. So when people assert that his definition is incomplete or wrong, they are offending him! Similar to how there seems to be a divide between radical feminists and the transgender community with respect to female identity. Some feminists are angry that male-sexed people are claiming to be actually female. This insults what it means for them to be a woman.

Something to think about maybe before you ban people for expressing themselves.

In my personal view this whole topic is solipsism in a nutshell.

Medvedev completely clowns DRUMPF hard on the twitter today and DRUMPF takes it like a ***** with no retort. I wonder why that is?

Theryn's updated position on the Trans-ban (she was against it, now she supports it even though it sucks). (But it's the YouTubez, so those choosing to remain ignorant are free to do so)



I'll summarize her points for you:

1) The military cannot take chances during the recruitment process. They have to go with statistics and trends - not giving individuals "the benefit of the doubt". And Trans mental instability and suicide rates make their risk too high. There are exceptions, but they have to go with the statistics.

2) Trans are such a minority that the risk isn't worth it. If white males (who have higher suicide rates) were a minority, then they would be excluded. We just can't afford to exclude white males because they are the majority. We can afford to exclude certain candidates and mental risk is one of them.

3) The military cannot cater to integrating pet issues. Everyone would want their pet issues catered to.

4) The American military is not comparable to any other military in the world. We are so much larger and actually protect those countries who's militaries you would compare us to (Canada, Australia, Israel, etc...).

5) She does question if people will hide their transgenderism - which, would be fine. The American tax payer doesn't pay your to be trans, we pay you to be effective. And yes, the way Trump did it had a negative cost. I believe he took the heat himself so that the Generals could come up with the policy they want - while he gives them cover.

Take it from a transwoman if you doubt me.

***** oh noes! reverse discrimination alert! *****

A last gasp at persuading Trump. But what is Trump going to do - the sanctions were veto proof. The Deep State and the Neocons would rather make war with Russia than getting their hands on the DNC servers. Sad indeed.

Your admission of being incapable of using logic is noted.

On this note, JiggyMac could you explain what you mean by "calling it like you see it" in regards to trans people in public restrooms?






As I understand these posts, you mean to say that if you see someone in the men's room that looks like a woman, or more likely you are thinking if you see someone in the women's room who looks like a man, you "call it like you see it" and physically assault them.

Good, ru5799837. Nice deflection. Please signal home for updated protocols.

First - allow me to remind you, you microbet was the one from where I got the "call it like I see it" remark. Someone who is Left of "Trump" here (I don't even know what Left of Center would mean anymore, and may that's a good thing. ).

I'm not really the physically assaulting type. But if my daughter said there was a 'woman' with a beard and a dress in her bathroom, I'd go get management. And if they didn't remove that person, I'd probably take my business elsewhere.

How Target Botched Its Response to the North Carolina Bathroom Law
(Note, I still do shop at Target, but less than I used to.)

Now, I suppose if a mentally ill person tried to assault my daughter, or pulled a stunt like Seattle, well, that might be a little different.

Your absurd absolutes do not make for a very compelling argument.

Sad!

I asked you at least twice to clarify, why are you only now doing it?

Why exactly would you go get a manager in hopes of getting your hypothetical trans woman kicked out of the restroom, or take your business elsewhere? If you had a daughter and they were assaulted by anyone, you'd surely call the police. But merely seeing a transgender woman with a beard in a dress is intolerable to you to the point of calling a manager? Why, exactly?

Also, your hypothetical is quite ridiculous. I know you know absolutely nothing about what it's like to be trans, and you don't care. But if a transgender woman is to the point in her life where she is publicly dressing and presenting as a woman, she's going to shave her ****ing facial hair, or get it lazered off.

What you just said is basically like fifty years ago someone saying they'd go get a manager if they saw a black person eating at their whites-only lunch counter. This is a civil rights issue, and trans people need to have the government on their side to protect from bigots like you. Your statement is blatant bigotry, and I don't know why the **** you expect anyone to take anything you say seriously regarding transgender people in the restroom, or military.

Which goes back to the entire point of "calling it like I see it". If they're presenting and no one's checking then no problem.

If someone is being a nuisance and needs a check, then the law should go with biology.

And if someone is in between and it's really causing an issue - I'm going to let the biological females decide. It's their bathroom, seems like they should get to make the decision.

Can you tell me the gender of this person:

I'd love to hear more about this being a nuisance and needing a genital check.

Trans people seem to need protection from deranged, activist lunatics like you. You make it worse for these people. Instead of acceptance you preach indoctrination. You're insanity should not be entertained.

Let me know when you're done listening to Theryn if you are looking for further understanding.