That perhaps there is something wrong with the ranking methodology? Agreed.

Care to cite your sources?

What are you agreeing with? The post you responded to claimed "that would suggest to me there's something very wrong with your current system". That is what you are agreeing with?

Oh, I see. You're implying that the poster agrees with your rebuttal before they even have an opportunity to reply. I guess you think that's clever.

You're still a child. Change.

Two decades ago Reich was a member of the United States Cabinet. That's pretty relevant.

Under Bill Clinton. I'll allow you to infer how much weight I give to this clown.
(Edit - actually, he was NOT the Secretary of Labor 20 years. His term ended in January - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...etary_of_Labor)

Although, apparently, he has descended further into madness.

Nice. You have no clue who he is, but you're going to be right about 7 months 20 years ago.

Holy **** at your hearing that Crimea is basically Russia and some Russians you talked to said it was cool to vote for Trump.

I know exactly who Robert Reich is. A more unhinged version of Paul Krugman.

Care to comment on how he fabricated a false flag agitator story at Berkley or have you just got nothing?


Yes, Crimeans are Russians:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapo.../#2c2b66b4510d

"In June 2014, a Gallup poll with the Broadcasting Board of Governors asked Crimeans if the results in the March 16, 2014 referendum to secede reflected the views of the people. A total of 82.8% of Crimeans said yes. When broken down by ethnicity, 93.6% of ethnic Russians said they believed the vote to secede was legitimate, while 68.4% of Ukrainians felt so. Moreover, when asked if joining Russia will ultimately make life better for them and their family, 73.9% said yes while 5.5% said no."

What is wrong with you?

Oh wait - you're probably comfortable with Ukraine meddling in our election and sending payments and material support to the Clintons:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...ackfire-233446


Ah, but I'm on to you.

Have you notice that anything that doesn't suit your world view is leftist lies? And then you ask to google the best hospitals in the world... Going from a moment of using filter to block every information that creates a discomfort to you to ask others to google some list that supports it.

Instead actually trying to discuss or change your views, you take your views and try to change everything around to suit them.

"After one year of propaganda and people thinking otherwise fleeing Crimea, the ones left behind prefer Moscow to Kiev"

Talking about Ukraine meddling your election is such chicken **** compared to **** that Russia is pulling worldwide. You do realize Ukraine is in war with Russia?

Yeah, that's exactly the reason why other countries can afford UHC for their citizens. Bravo U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A. Thanks to USA, the world police and bringer of Freedom around the world, the other countries can afford all the possible variants of UHC systems that costs less than the US system. Otherwise they would have to use the more expensive system since they couldn't afford the cheaper systems.

Yes, it's expensive. We pay a lot to have the best, but we have the best. You always pay a price to have the best. That's why it's called "the best".

It's the same for education. We have the best. Also, it's expensive as ****. But I'd rather have that option than not.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2...care-spending/

William for your reading.

Same with the two current republican Senators who said on a hot mic trump was crazy and they were worried.


I love how in one instant we have the best education and in another we have a bunch of liberal leftist colleges run amuck.

Because they are leftist lies. They are based on lies and on cherry picked or skewed data. It took me and embarrassingly long time to realize it because I just assumed the data was correct. From global warming to education to healthcare to racism - all manipulated nonsense. Why do you think so many leftists here on 2+2 get caught lying about every topic?

It's all lies and deceit. It's laughable. We life Inna free and civil society, but if you believed the idiots in this forum we live in the worst society in the history of mankind.

Noticed you're from Finland. Why do your cancer survivor rates suck so bad with your free healthcare?

I don't do much of either. I have no current desire to travel the world. There is time for that later in life, if I choose. What's important to me is the people around me, in fact, it's the only thing I really care about right now. When I was younger I put other things first because people told me to. I've learned from my mistakes.

Family and friends make me happy. If I never travelled again I would die content. There's much better things to concentrate on.

Wow! From the article:

"One big reason U.S. health care costs are so high: pharmaceutical spending. The U.S. spends more per capita on prescription medicines and over-the-counter products than any other country in the OECD."

Because Americans are fat and want pills to solve their problems. What does this have to do with insurance? Seems like Americans just make poor lifestyle decisions (and we probably eat too much processed food). But we should have MORE insurance to fix this??? What is this - we have problem A, let's solve for Problem B.

It's obvious we do. If you're a brilliant student you come to America, you don't go to Sweden or China, do you?

As far as the leftists, they currently have social power. They have the advantage due to their methods in shutting down opposition. That dynamic is shifting.

You don't see it slowly happening? Lol. You're in for a big surprise. Again.

We've been over this. Yes, a non-politician not acting like a politician would seem crazy to a politician.

The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. - F. Scott Fitzgerald (I doubt you'll ever get there batair.)

It's a lot harder for Leftists to infiltrate STEM (even though they're trying) than it is to promulgate worthless Gender Studies programs.

Yes our leftist college's are pretty good right now and have been going back to when Nixon was crying about them. And sure the current trend of anti intellectualism might have an effect on that.

They will never infiltrate STEM like the social sciences because they actually have to have real data. Thank God.

Ill give you guys that. Some of you are very good at compartelmentlzing your cognitive dissonance of contradicting ideas.

Lol, if you think the current state of them is "pretty good", there's not much to discuss. It's absolutely horrifying, and I'd even go so far as to say it's downright brainwashing that's going on there. Young people go to college and come back dumber than when they went.

I had a 2 hour conversation with my brother in law about many of the topics discussed here. He sounded like a typical leftist idiot here. I challenged all of his views and at the end of the night he said he's never heard people argue points the way I did, or hold the positions I did. I looked at him and said "and you went to M.I.T.? That's not a good thing.". He agreed.

Lol, arguably the best school on the planet and he couldn't defend the things he believed in. Completely laughable. They are spoon-fed this nonsense and believe it without question. 65k a year for propoganda. Lol.

You know the main politics forum is full of lefty STEM guys, right?

Ok now we are going with we dont have the best education in the world...


You do have a powerful brain. Its very intimidating id give him another shot.

We've gone over this. Are we going to have one of your typical 5x back and forths with this one point? Yes, we have the best education, parts of it are warped. The SJW crowd currently has the upper hand socially.

There are many people who disagree vehemently with your views that will never say a word in public. You don't win arguments because you are right, you win them due to fear.

I'm not one of those people.

What better than an overload of internal contradictions to fuel blind authoritarian rage?

They picked the right leader for sure.