this video is the source of the controversy, you can decide whether its a hit piece or not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFY7mGkmFxo,

This is the source of the "death to all jews" video, and as I understand it, there was a series of videos with nazi related themes.





Again, I cannot read the relevant WSJ articles, as I am not a subscriber, so I cannot determine if I agree with your assessment of them being hit pieces or not.

Are you a WSJ subscriber? You would have to be to read them yourself, and you would have to read them yourself to form an opinion regarding them being hit pieces or not.



edit: I just watched the video by WSJ you linked. In no way do I think this is a hit piece. It is reporting factual information about the series of events that unfolded, and it does not state that pewdiepie is anti-semetic or a neo-nazi. How exactly is this video a hit piece? I do not know if the articles or this WSJ video were published first.

no I only watched that video and then read some articles from different outlets bashing him

I'm not a wsj sub

What about that video is a hit piece? Can you link to the hit piece articles you read?

So basically you're full of ****

YouTube is better and worse than cable news or corporate media in general. But it requires a lot of judgement from the viewer.

I guarantee you didn't read that entire article tho, especially regarding your sources

To each their own and no offense, but I'm 49 and grew up not playing video games with some Atari and arcade games thrown in and watching other people play video games seems even more boring and pointless than arguing with Trumpkins online.

Just blame it on me being an old.

Yeah, I enjoy watching Twitch and some YouTube gaming although I mostly prefer speedruns.

I can only speak for myself, but the reason I dismiss YouTube on the forums is not because I think TV news is better or even that YouTube is a bad platform. For me, it has a couple problems:

1) I don't want to watch YouTube at work and I do a bunch of my posting at work.
2) A lot of the YouTube videos posted by people are very long and I don't want to spend that much time watching them.

Can you spot the people with PTSD?

Trump's and his White House are an embarrassment to the United States. D and R politicians pander to idiots (i.e. citizens), using idiotic reasoning...



Why should I even care anymore?

Another self-own.

What about who?

It's like chocolate, which makes caring poetic and possibly delicious.

Uh, re-read what I wrote and try again. In the context of you guys blasting right wing commentators like Peggy Noonan and David Brooks as secret leftists and the tweet I linked.

I'm confident even you can figure out what I'm saying.

Federal security is something that falls under the purview of federal powers in the constitution, so I think that is perfectly fine. Also Im against state rights interference so we're on the same page there.

I don't think its a talking point; you're mistaking actual conservatives with neo-cons or rinos.

Fine most republicans are for big intrusive government as long as its theirs and not the others. And you voted for a president and White House who will **** on states rights and support boondoggles when it sutes him.

As has happened with the other Trumpkin recently, the mistake is hugely telling. Perhaps Jiggy is 13 years old or something and really doesn't know what partisan means, but I think with the cognitive dissonance and all he just could not form the thought that Trump could even theoretically be wrong. It's so Kim Jong-Unish. It's so 1984. It's not enough that Jiggy is loyal and just supports whatever Trump says, it's that whatever Trump says must be true. 2 + 2 = 5.

There is great content on youtube but like any platform there is a signal / noise ratio that needs some understanding to distinguish, if your reliance on youtube results in you deciding that Peggy Noonan is a left wing shill you don't have that understanding.

Also using youtube to make points on discussion forums is awful, if you post an article to support your view I can read it digest it and copy paste those points I want to challenge, if you post a youtube am I expected to watch it then rewatch it or mark the times that I disagree and then transcribe those sections in order to discuss them?

The biggest problem with youtube for political discussions is it isn't really an appropriate medium for citation imo. There are absolutely phenomenal sources of news/information on youtube, such as Democracy Now!, but if I'm having a discussion and I need to provide a citation, I'm going to go to their website and find the article if I'll cite DN. Youtube videos aren't good for this.

that video is a load of lies and misdirection

stormfront put pewdiepie #1, do you think pewdiepie supports stormfront?
garbage from a garbage publication

and the internet is replete with hit pieces on pewdiepie from this, just google pewdiepie wsj and you can read all the articles form both dinosaur media and new online media

What specifically in the video is lies and misdirection?



It is true that the daily stormer did that. The neo-nazis on that site liked what pewdiepie did a lot.

There is no evidence to suggest pewdiepie supports stormfront (or the daily stormer), and the WSJ video you linked does not state that anywhere.




Please link me to a specific article you're referring to as a hit piece on pewdiepie.

read this rag by vox

https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/2/1...tire-alt-right

and its such a cop out to say that stormer did put him #1, the fact that the admins decided to use his celebrity and put him#1 despite pewdiepie having 0 to do with stormfront. This is a classic yellow journalism. Stormfront=evil stormfront praises pewdiepie, pewdiepie must be evil.

and just watch the video for misdirection, it states he puts up antisemitic and nazi imagery with 0 context. The entire video sends the message that pewdiepie is an antisemite when there is 0 evidence he is.

What else can you do?

While I understand the pessimism, consider the progress we've made as a species and understand that all signs point to that progress only accelerating. It looks bleak but it ain't yo.