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07-27-2017 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
AllCows: Trump is removing regulations so that mining corporations can increase profits by dumping toxic waste again.

Do you think this is taking America in the right direction? If so, how?
07-27-2017 , 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
JiggyMac,

Look dude or dudette, talking to you is clearly an abysmal waste of time, so I'm not talking to you any more. Your amazing Socratic method is just clearly too much for me to handle, and I have much better things to do with my time than to waste it on you.

Cheers.
Understood. Just realize when you make stupid points, your stupidity will continually be called out. But whinge away!!

Clearly your point seems to be:
"When I ask direct questions, I expect answers. However, when I am similarly questioned, those rules do not apply."

Cheers!
07-27-2017 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
Do you think this is taking America in the right direction? If so, how?
Negative. I believe corporations should not be able to profit through negative externalities and I think jiggy is a dishonest troll with bad intentions.
07-27-2017 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
What percent would you estimate are hermaphrodite and what other policies in the United States should we implement based on the behaviors 0.3%? Be careful what you wish for here..
You are the one who wants special policies.

I will say that I have no problem with the federal government paying for your therapy so that you can overcome your fear of the transgendered. Whether you accept that offer would be entirely up to you.
07-27-2017 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Negative. I believe corporations should not be able to profit through negative externalities and I think jiggy is a dishonest troll with bad intentions.

I agree with you on both points, but I don't agree with making arguments for dishonest trolls with bad intentions
07-27-2017 , 09:44 AM
When ____ tries to use mental illness/health stigma on transgender people, we can tell they have two prejudices to face and become responsible about.
07-27-2017 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
I agree with you on both points, but I don't agree with making arguments for dishonest trolls with bad intentions
You know, AllCows, I was going to attempt to demonstrate how you could make your point more effectively - try to give you a win-win here.

Then I went to look at the Rule (which your article notes is one of the most controversial rules ever passed by Obama - in December of 2016!!! Did Obama just not care about rivers and streams for 8 years?). It's a gigantic mess!

Here is the rule:
https://www.regulations.gov/document...010-0018-10631

In plain English (1 standard English paragraphs *less than a page*, no higher than grade 8 on the Flesch-Kincaid scale) - please explain how this rule is to be enforced and what are the trade-offs in implementing vs. non-implementing this rule? What does it cost and what do we get?
07-27-2017 , 10:07 AM
Jiggy: The text of the regulation is far too long. We need simple answers to complicated questions! Better to just let them dump toxic waste into our kids water supply until we can figure this all out.
07-27-2017 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
EVERYONE. re Transgender

I've given one timeout, it could be more (it may become more). From now on we are not discussing the existence of Transgender people - that is a given. The discussion will now be restricted to policies and issues surrounding and effecting Transgender people.

Your cooperation is appreciated.

chez
LOL chezlaw going to bat for wil, doing insane doublethink with like, explaining that his reactionary bigotry DOESN'T EXIST, and banning people who hurt his feelings.

Absolute human garbage. The one timeout was, of course, to a liberal who hurt wil's baby soft feelings. (there was also my timeout for using a forbidden word to impugn the academic credentials of GamerGate youtubers)

This is a Safe Space for bragging about hate crimes, guys. That's the chezlaw promise. That's who his parents raised. And they are so proud of their boy.
07-27-2017 , 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Jiggy: The text of the regulation is far too long. We need simple answers to complicated questions! Better to just let them dump toxic waste into our kids water supply until we can figure this all out.
Your pearl clutching is saving many children, which you will continue to think of.
07-27-2017 , 10:27 AM
No, Jiggy, his pearl clutching isn't doing anything. The regulations he supports are what do it.

And you sort of punted on actual policy, lol your concern is that there are too many words in the regulation. Donald ****ing Trump in a nutshell.
07-27-2017 , 10:32 AM
Jiggy: TG gonna eat babies in public restrooms! Please think of the Children! Oh, and quit your pearl clutching about pfffft water pollution, like any kids drink that stuff.
07-27-2017 , 10:52 AM
That was some pathetic flailing yesterday by the regime squad. Altzi shock, but have nothing to strike awe.
07-27-2017 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot
Speech I am compelled to perform by law.
Right... and what is the speech that is being compelled by the Canadian law you were bitching about?

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Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot
Just because you say something doesn't make it so either.
You should read the posts you're responding to because this doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
07-27-2017 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by nomaddd
Once again:

It's not bigoted to call a man, a man. It's intellectually dishonest to call them any other sex or gender than a man. I have no problem if people want to call themselves something...but stop pretending that me calling a man, a man is bigoted. It's asinine. It's also dishonest to lump me in with people who want the government to regulate this ****.
Like, what DO you want? What are you complaining about?

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JFC this thread is completely unreadable now. Doesn't anyone post in comprehensible English?
07-27-2017 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TiltedDonkey
Right... and what is the speech that is being compelled by the Canadian law you were bitching about?



You should read the posts you're responding to because this doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
We've already linked itt:

Here is Jordan Peterson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnIAAkSNtqo

Here are New York City speech codes:
You can be fined for not calling people ‘ze’ or ‘hir,’ if that’s the pronoun they demand that you use
07-27-2017 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
TG gonna eat babies in public restrooms!
You sound very transphobic.
07-27-2017 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Response from the UK (thanks trump for helping me find something that feels good from the UK - hard to find these days)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40733701



Also in related news - this is from our right wing government!


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/t...-sex-sk2q2vwc0
The thing about birth certificates seems stupid. If you are going to just allow people to pick their "sex" then why have it on the certificates at all. Should stick to biological sex on official government records imo.
07-27-2017 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
You sound very transphobic.
You are trolling with concern about transphobia.
07-27-2017 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TiltedDonkey
The thing about birth certificates seems stupid. If you are going to just allow people to pick their "sex" then why have it on the certificates at all. Should stick to biological sex on official government records imo.
In Transgenderism thinking, you were "assigned" the wrong sex at birth - the doctors made a mistake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j9v43m5OyA


Canada is going sexless for babies too:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...rst/452857001/
07-27-2017 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
You are trolling with concern about transphobia.
Care to show me where I made the claim that "TG gonna eat babies"? But I'm the troll. LOL!
07-27-2017 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
Care to show me where I made the claim that "TG gonna eat babies"? But I'm the troll. LOL!
Are you exaggerating hyperbole trolling? Mmmmmm Hmmmmm, see that.
07-27-2017 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by nomaddd
How do you know perpetuating a lie is not causing harm? These folks are transforming their bodies, taking drugs, all in attempt to make themselves into something they are not, and never will be.

I'm not going to pretend my reasoning here is completely altruistic, more than one based upon logic and common sense, but the idea of perpetuating a lie as being the right course does not seem like the responsible way to go.
I don't really know the current state of sex transformation surgery, but surely it will keep advancing, and at some point will reach a stage where a person basically can switch genders. It might already be there, as I said I don't know.

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Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot
Who talks like this in real life?

"Hey woman, I'll have a cheesburger and fries"
Clearly, you are not an alpha male.
07-27-2017 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Well, sure, that's the point of them trying to be "passable". Some trans/drag/cross men really look like women. Remarkably so. They are called women, because they look like women.

Those two in that picture you keep posting look like men to me, btw.
Really? The top one looks like a reasonably attractive woman imo, and the bottom one is a bit strange looking but I wouldn't say she looks like a man. If I saw those pics out of context I would definitely have assumed they were both women.

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
The posters that are posting things such as "Transgender women are not women, they are men" are doing so from a position of intolerance, of bigotry, and to say something like this is to deny the existence of transgender people, much like how the president of Chechnya publicly denies the existence of gay people in his country. This is the country where concentration camps have been set up for gay people.
I don't think that quote denies the existence of transgender people. To be clear, I think at least one poster in the thread did try to deny their existence (which, what?) but definitely not all people who say "a transgender woman is not really a woman" are denying the existence of transgender people.

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
There needs to be some action taken by the moderators on these posts, because the rules very clearly state that bigotry against minorities are not permitted, and several posters are openly posting bigotry against the most marginalized minority group in society.
I disagree. "Mainstream" views should not be censored from a political forum no matter how odious some may find them.
07-27-2017 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
In Transgenderism thinking, you were "assigned" the wrong sex at birth - the doctors made a mistake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j9v43m5OyA


Canada is going sexless for babies too:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...rst/452857001/
I'm not watching YouTubez.

Regarding bolded, "Canada is going sexless for babies" is a complete misrepresentation as far as I can tell. They sent a sexless ID card for one parent who specifically requested it.

      
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