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07-27-2017 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by batair
In the world you might just not know and call someone what they wish anyway.
Well, sure, that's the point of them trying to be "passable". Some trans/drag/cross men really look like women. Remarkably so. They are called women, because they look like women.

Those two in that picture you keep posting look like men to me, btw.
07-27-2017 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Report it for bigotry. Be my guest.

In my world a man is a man, not what a person wishes to be called. Your current mental state doesn't dictate my reality. Sorry.

Reported, like many other posts in this thread espousing bigotry.

I'll post the relevant rule, which I think is quite appropriate, and outline how your post and others are bigoted, and should not be allowed on the forum.


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2. The forum welcomes discussion of a wide variety of topics (current events, political issues, societal issues, philosophical issues, etc.). However, posts espousing the following viewpoints are not allowed in this forum:

white supremacy
homophobia
pro-pedophilia
misogyny
racism
bigotry towards minorities or religious groups
islamophobia
anti-semitism
hate speech
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/21...rules-1670588/


Bigotry is defined as:

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The attitude, state of mind, or behavior characteristic of a bigot; intolerance.

the attitudes, behaviour, or way of thinking of a bigot; prejudice; intolerance

1. extreme intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.
2. the actions, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/bigotry


The posters that are posting things such as "Transgender women are not women, they are men" are doing so from a position of intolerance, of bigotry, and to say something like this is to deny the existence of transgender people, much like how the president of Chechnya publicly denies the existence of gay people in his country. This is the country where concentration camps have been set up for gay people.

There needs to be some action taken by the moderators on these posts, because the rules very clearly state that bigotry against minorities are not permitted, and several posters are openly posting bigotry against the most marginalized minority group in society.
07-27-2017 , 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
The posters that are posting things such as "Transgender women are not women, they are men" are doing so from a position of intolerance, of bigotry, and to say something like this is to deny the existence of transgender people, much like how the president of Chechnya publicly denies the existence of gay people in his country. This is the country where concentration camps have been set up for gay people.

There needs to be some action taken by the moderators on these posts, because the rules very clearly state that bigotry against minorities are not permitted, and several posters are only posting bigotry against the most marginalized group of people in society.
It's not done from a position of intolerance. I've said over and over again that I do not deny their humanity and I wish them the best in finding peace and happiness. I simply will not deny reality and call something it is not.

I frankly don't give a **** what you think about my position. When we can't agree what a man or a woman is, we have much bigger problem than just politeness. One of us is not living in reality. That person is you.

Furthermore, you trying to have my views banned by the moderators is a gross overreach. You are literally trying to silence people who disagree with your position.

If anyone wants a prime example of why leftists are so deeply hated in this country by so many, this is a good example.
07-27-2017 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Well, sure, that's the point of them trying to be "passable". Some trans/drag/cross men really look like women. Remarkably so. They are called women, because they look like women.

Those two in that picture you keep posting look like men to me, btw.
If its sure then some of their reality's are sure to alter your reality of a man is a man is a man whether you like it or not.

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Originally Posted by wil318466
Report it for bigotry. Be my guest.

In my world a man is a man, not what a person wishes to be called. Your current mental state doesn't dictate my reality. Sorry.
07-27-2017 , 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
He's moving it in the right direction.

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
How exactly is it going in the right direction?

OK, so you had your chance to take your pick on issues, you balked.


Mining companies have been known to dump toxic waste into streams and rivers, which very often run into larger bodies of water, which are often used as sources of drinking water.

Under the Obama administration, the office of surface mining put into place a regulation intending to protect streams and rivers from the dumping of toxic mining waste. That looks like this:




How was this regulation taking in America in the wrong direction?

One of the Executive Orders Trump has signed during his administration was to remove that rule. How is this taking America in the right direction?


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President Trump on Thursday signed legislation ending a key Obama administration coal mining rule.

The bill quashes the Office of Surface Mining's Stream Protection Rule, a regulation to protect waterways from coal mining waste that officials finalized in December.

The legislation is the second Trump has signed into law ending an Obama-era environmental regulation.
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-env...al-mining-rule
07-27-2017 , 02:47 AM
I didn't balk on anything. You threatened to report my post if I didn't edit it. I chose not to edit it.

Let me know how that works out for you. I'll be back tomorrow. Sleep well.
07-27-2017 , 02:50 AM
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/...social_twitter

Small price to pay for moving in the right direction as far as not being PC.
07-27-2017 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
It's not done from a position of intolerance. I've said over and over again that I do not deny their humanity and I wish them the best in finding peace and happiness. I simply will not deny reality and call something it is not.

I frankly don't give a **** what you think about my position. When we can't agree what a man or a woman is, we have much bigger problem than just politeness. One of us is not living in reality. That person is you.

Furthermore, you trying to have my views banned by the moderators is a gross overreach. You are literally trying to silence people who disagree with your position.

If anyone wants a prime example of why leftists are so deeply hated in this country by so many, this is a good example.

Oh sure! Calling a transgender person an it is really respecting their humanity! You are very clearly intolerant. Why can't you tolerate referring to a transgender man or woman as a transgender man or woman? Why is that so intolerable to you?

I'll give you my general idea on what the rules, and atmosphere of the forum should be. I have taken many classes in Community Colleges and Public Universities, several of them being Political Science classes, and a Philosophy class. In these classes, open debate about the various relevant issues was held among the students. Things that were not present in these debates are things like calling people cucks or other names, cussing people out, expressing racist, sexist, homophobic, or transphobic ideas, and for good reason. The debates were both intellectually stimulating, challenging, and also welcoming, and they did not devolve into a **** throwing contest where absolutely nothing could be learned. This is generally the atmosphere I think a political forum should have, and I don't think bigotry should be allowed in this forum, just like I don't think it should be allowed in classrooms in Universities. If you want to espouse bigotry, take that garbage to 4chan or The_Donald.

Last edited by AllCowsEatGrass; 07-27-2017 at 02:59 AM.
07-27-2017 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by nomaddd
A person says he feels like and is a worthless human being.

Is he worthless?


A person says he feels like and is a woman.

Is he a woman?
Is the person you or DoNut or Jiggly?
07-27-2017 , 03:00 AM
The Pretentious Illiterate is back!

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Originally Posted by wil318466
It's not done from a position of intolerance. I've said over and over again that I do not deny their humanity and I wish them the best in finding peace and happiness. I simply will not deny reality and call something it is not.

I frankly don't give a **** what you think about my position. When we can't agree what a man or a woman is, we have much bigger problem than just politeness. One of us is not living in reality. That person is you.

Furthermore, you trying to have my views banned by the moderators is a gross overreach. You are literally trying to silence people who disagree with your position.

If anyone wants a prime example of why leftists are so deeply hated in this country by so many, this is a good example.
07-27-2017 , 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
People like you should have your internet access taken away.
Listen here and listen good you ****ing deplorable piece of human feces, you started this whole thing. I told you I was going to finish it. You are a pure scumbag. Absolute ****ing waste of air. Come and say some of your regurgitated nonsense to my face and see if you can still run your cockholster.

edit: 1 day timeout for breaking the rule
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Avoid anything that can seem like a threat of violence or doxxing.

Last edited by chezlaw; 07-27-2017 at 05:58 AM.
07-27-2017 , 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
Oh sure! Calling a transgender person an it is really respecting their humanity! You are very clearly intolerant. Why can't you tolerate referring to a transgender man or woman as a transgender man or woman?

I'll give you my general idea on what the rules, and atmosphere of the forum should be. I have taken many classes in Community Colleges and Public Universities, several of them being Political Science classes, and a Philosophy class. In these classes, open debate about the various relevant issues was held among the students. Things that were not present in these debates are things like calling people cucks or other names, cussing people out, expressing racist, homophobic, or transphobic ideas, and for good reason. The debates were both intellectually stimulating, challenging, and also welcoming, and they did not devolve into a **** throwing contest where absolutely nothing could be learned. This is generally the atmosphere I think a political forum should have, and I don't think bigotry should be allowed in this forum, just like I don't think it should be allowed in classrooms in Universities.
I don't care what settings you've had discussions in, especially so if it's in a university. The real world is not university. In the real world you don't get to dictate what people are allowed to say. In the real world you have to defend your argument from the beginning, not having the ability to censor people who disagree with the very basis of the argument.

This is why in the REAL WORLD, people like you need therapy dogs and hugs and brownies baked for you. In the real world people actually disagree with you, and do not care about your feelings in the least bit.

University is not reality. It is an alternate universe liberals have created where your feelings are safe and protected and your ideas are unchallenged. In University you are not allowed to say a man is a man, so the conversation STARTS with everyone accepting trans male to female are females. That's why when you people enter the real world you fall to pieces, because you never even realized that there's a whole planet with billions of people who do not agree with you.

Hope this helps.
07-27-2017 , 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
Oh sure! Calling a transgender person an it is really respecting their humanity! You are very clearly intolerant. Why can't you tolerate referring to a transgender man or woman as a transgender man or woman? Why is that so intolerable to you?

I'll give you my general idea on what the rules, and atmosphere of the forum should be. I have taken many classes in Community Colleges and Public Universities, several of them being Political Science classes, and a Philosophy class. In these classes, open debate about the various relevant issues was held among the students. Things that were not present in these debates are things like calling people cucks or other names, cussing people out, expressing racist, sexist, homophobic, or transphobic ideas, and for good reason. The debates were both intellectually stimulating, challenging, and also welcoming, and they did not devolve into a **** throwing contest where absolutely nothing could be learned. This is generally the atmosphere I think a political forum should have, and I don't think bigotry should be allowed in this forum, just like I don't think it should be allowed in classrooms in Universities. If you want to espouse bigotry, take that garbage to 4chan or The_Donald.
You're not a fan of my work?
07-27-2017 , 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
Reported, like many other posts in this thread espousing bigotry.

I'll post the relevant rule, which I think is quite appropriate, and outline how your post and others are bigoted, and should not be allowed on the forum.
Not that i disagree and would understand if the thread got cleaned up. But wils post by wil standers was kind of tame there at least.
07-27-2017 , 03:06 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I don't care what settings you've had discussions in, especially so if it's in a university. The real world is not university. In the real world you don't get to dictate what people are allowed to say. In the real world you have to defend your argument from the beginning, not having the ability to censor people who disagree with the very basis of the argument.

This is why in the REAL WORLD, people like you need therapy dogs and hugs and brownies baked for you. In the real world people actually disagree with you, and do not care about your feelings in the least bit.

University is not reality. It is an alternate universe liberals have created where your feelings are safe and protected and your ideas are unchallenged. In University you are not allowed to say a man is a man, so the conversation STARTS with everyone accepting trans male to female are females. That's why when you people enter the real world you fall to pieces, because you never even realized that there's a whole planet full of billions of people who do not agree with you.

Hope this helps.

This post is incredibly stupid.
07-27-2017 , 03:07 AM
i know we're not supposed to condone violence but if corvette whipped wil's ass IRL that would be amazeballs
07-27-2017 , 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I don't care what settings you've had discussions in, especially so if it's in a university. The real world is not university. In the real world you don't get to dictate what people are allowed to say. In the real world you have to defend your argument from the beginning, not having the ability to censor people who disagree with the very basis of the argument.

This is why in the REAL WORLD, people like you need therapy dogs and hugs and brownies baked for you. In the real world people actually disagree with you, and do not care about your feelings in the least bit.

University is not reality. It is an alternate universe where liberals have created where your feelings are safe and protected and your ideas are unchallenged. In University you are not allowed to say a man is a man, so the conversation STARTS with everyone accepting trans male to female are females. That's why when you people enter the real world you fall to pieces, because you never even realized that there's a whole planet with billions of people who do not agree with you.

Hope this helps.
Dumbest ****ing post I've ever read. And more proof of how big a ****ing dirtbag you are.
07-27-2017 , 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
i know we're not supposed to condone violence but if corvette whipped wil's ass IRL that would amazeballs
I'm 44 and a bit overweight, but we could go 3 rounds in the octagon. A 2+2 PPV featuring good vs evil.
07-27-2017 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
This post is incredibly stupid.
mother of god i thought you were exaggerating
07-27-2017 , 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
i know we're not supposed to condone violence but if corvette whipped wil's ass IRL that would be amazeballs
Id rather see her do it when he refused to call her ma'am or let her pee.


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Originally Posted by prana


Transgender former SEAL member Kristin Beck: ‘Tell me I’m not worthy’ to my face

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...team-6-member/

Wish she was here to snatch a knot in Inso's ass.
07-27-2017 , 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
This post is incredibly stupid.
You may think of it what you wish, but it is the truth. It is of no surprise you threatened to report my post. That's what you people do, you wish to censor and silence people who challenge your views.

A human born with a penis is a man. He has a man's body and has a man's reproductive system. Even if he had surgery he could not have a baby, or change his entire biology so that it would be impossible to tell if he was born a man.

There is nothing bigoted or hateful about that sentiment, it is simply truth. For us to not be able to come to some sort of agreement on something this trivially easy is a serious problem in our society. If this doesn't alarm people into wondering what they are teaching in our universities, I don't think anything will.

Let me know how reporting my posts goes. I'll be eager to see the result in the morning.
07-27-2017 , 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by batair
Id rather see her do it when he refused to call her ma'am or let her pee.
You honestly think I would change my views under threat of violence? Do you truly think that?
07-27-2017 , 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
You may think of it what you wish, but it is the truth. It is of no surprise you threatened to report my post. That's what you people do, you wish to censor and silence people who challenge your views.
You censor posters words and have called for at least one ban. Stop with your virtue signaling.
07-27-2017 , 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by batair
You censor posters words and have called for at least one ban. Stop with your virtue signaling.
I censor nothing and whoever I wanted banned must have been for good reason. If you are talking about shame trolly I was simply joking.

I welcome all discussion except for blatant trolling and spam. I am not interested in even having a discussion if opposing ideas are suppressed. What's the point? If I wanted to jerk off I'd do it in the shower.
07-27-2017 , 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by nomaddd
A person says he feels like and is a worthless human being.

Is he worthless?

A person says he feels like and is a woman.

Is he a woman?



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It's easy to placate.
lol you posted this twice

would 'it depends' blow your mind?

      
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