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07-26-2017 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
I did not claim that it implied that there is an entirely different sex/gender. However, I would point out that I think you have a problem in your understanding of the relationship between conceptual categories (sex/gender) and biology. But that's not relevant to the point I was making. I only claimed that there is a biological basis to being transgender.



My understanding is that the post I quoted was arguing exactly what you think it is not arguing. Perhaps I'm wrong, but that's what it implies to me.
Did you read the article, or did you read the study. I'm certain you did not read the study if you think it says anything other than some "TG" have similar white matter than some females. Using that to state that as evidence of TG as a sex or gender is absurd.


As a condition, not a sex or gender. Biology. Man, I should of known, you'd have to clarify your words to something other than what they actually say.
07-26-2017 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Why would I assert authority over what's possible and known by others when listening is far more reliable and superior?
Well there's a big difference between what you're describing (a person to person discussion about personal experience) and what is going actually going on (forced general acceptance of something most people consider to be not possible), but in terms of exerting authority over what's possible and what's not, personal experience is probably the least reliable thing we have to determine truth, and just because someone says they've experienced something does not make it so.
07-26-2017 , 07:29 PM
Nomadd's implied ability to predict people's genitalia remotely is absurd.
07-26-2017 , 07:30 PM
https://www.buzzfeed.com/dominichold...12k#.mvMGy2WR5

Hey so the federal government under the most pro-LGBT Republican ever is filing amicus briefs in favor of anti-gay employee discrimination, that's cool.

Again, gay people know you hate them. I know nomadd, Do, Jiggy, you all think you're selling the **** out of this Dr. Logic and Reason act, but you're just horrifyingly reactionary bigots and everyone ****ing knows that.
07-26-2017 , 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
https://www.buzzfeed.com/dominichold...12k#.mvMGy2WR5

Hey so the federal government under the most pro-LGBT Republican ever is filing amicus briefs in favor of anti-gay employee discrimination, that's cool.

Again, gay people know you hate them. I know nomadd, Do, Jiggy, you all think you're selling the **** out of this Dr. Logic and Reason act, but you're just horrifyingly reactionary bigots and everyone ****ing knows that.

Once again:

It's not bigoted to call a man, a man. It's intellectually dishonest to call them any other sex or gender than a man. I have no problem if people want to call themselves something...but stop pretending that me calling a man, a man is bigoted. It's asinine. It's also dishonest to lump me in with people who want the government to regulate this ****.
07-26-2017 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
https://www.buzzfeed.com/dominichold...12k#.mvMGy2WR5

Hey so the federal government under the most pro-LGBT Republican ever is filing amicus briefs in favor of anti-gay employee discrimination, that's cool.

Again, gay people know you hate them. I know nomadd, Do, Jiggy, you all think you're selling the **** out of this Dr. Logic and Reason act, but you're just horrifyingly reactionary bigots and everyone ****ing knows that.
My brother in law is gay and I don't hate him. I also dislike a lot of straight people.
07-26-2017 , 07:38 PM
Call them what you want. Like an *******, if that's what you choose. What is this compelled speech nonsense anyway? Surely not talking about a job instructing what to say?
07-26-2017 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
Call them what you want. Like an *******, if that's what you choose. What is this compelled speech nonsense anyway?
Such a moronic argument. I'm not calling them what I want. I'm calling them what they are. Oh, I forgot, man is pejorative to SJW's.
07-26-2017 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by nomaddd
Once again:

It's not bigoted to call a man, a man. It's intellectually dishonest to call them any other sex or gender than a man. I have no problem if people want to call themselves something...but stop pretending that me calling a man, a man is bigoted. It's asinine. It's also dishonest to lump me in with people who want the government to regulate this ****.
Hmmm let's run the tape and find all the posts of you disagreeing with people who do want to regulate it.....
07-26-2017 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by nomaddd
Once again:



It's not bigoted to call a man, a man. It's intellectually dishonest to call them any other sex or gender than a man. I have no problem if people want to call themselves something...but stop pretending that me calling a man, a man is bigoted. It's asinine. It's also dishonest to lump me in with people who want the government to regulate this ****.
Your prejudice is why you are a bigot. It's why you insist to call people what you think their genitalia look like.
07-26-2017 , 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot
My brother in law is gay and I don't hate him. I also dislike a lot of straight people.
He absolutely knows you hate him and talks **** about his bigoted Trump voting brother in law behind your back
07-26-2017 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Your prejudice is why you are a bigot. It's why you insist to call people what you think their genitalia look like.
This statement is actually unintelligible.
07-26-2017 , 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot
This statement is actually unintelligible.
It's accurate and readable.
07-26-2017 , 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
He absolutely knows you hate him and talks **** about his bigoted Trump voting brother in law behind your back
Actually we talk fairly often and get along really well. He was there when I proposed to his sister.
07-26-2017 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot
This statement is actually unintelligible.
It's perfectly clear to an open mind.
07-26-2017 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
It's accurate and readable.
It isn't. How does one address someone by what their genitalia look like? People don't talk to others that way anyway, so it's an absurd thing to say.

"Hey cock and balls, how's it going?"
07-26-2017 , 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot
It isn't. How does one address someone by what their genitalia look like? People don't talk to others that way anyway, so it's an absurd thing to say.



"Hey cock and balls, how's it going?"


Ask Nomadd, who also edits people's personal statements to tell them who they are.
07-26-2017 , 07:57 PM
Here's a good question for those who believe transgenders are a thing:

Is it possible for a male-born individual who identifies as a woman to have been as oppressed by the patriarchy as a female-born woman?

The mods wish to allow the transgender conversation to continue because it's so politically relevant but I have warned everyone and there has to be some respect in the debate. You cannot, as you have in several posts, suggest that transgender isn't real.

I'm giving you a 24 timeout from this thread and the topic of transgender anywhere in Pv7.0. Please in future stick to the issues and policy surrounding transgender people and not your views on their existence.

Last edited by chezlaw; 07-27-2017 at 05:35 AM.
07-26-2017 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot
It isn't. How does one address someone by what their genitalia look like? People don't talk to others that way anyway, so it's an absurd thing to say.

"Hey cock and balls, how's it going?"
This is the problem with acting like a dumdum so often when posting. I can't tell if it's acting or not.

You insist on calling a person that you think has a v, a female, and a person that you think has a d, a male. Now reread the post that's tripping you up.
07-26-2017 , 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Cut
This is the problem with acting like a dumdum so often when posting. I can't tell if it's acting or not.

You insist on calling a person that you think has a v, a female, and a person that you think has a d, a male. Now reread the post that's tripping you up.
I don't call anyone I know by those things, nor do I ever address people that way, and no one else does either.

If someone has a p, they are biologically a male, and vice versa however.
07-26-2017 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot
I don't call anyone I know by those things, nor do I ever address people that way, and no one else does either.

If someone has a p, they are biologically a male, and vice versa however.
what are you talking about.... ffs? Whatever name you use when addressing a male of female.


****ing rutabaga, you're so wound up you can't even parse and comprehend simple sentences.
07-26-2017 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by nomaddd
Such a moronic argument. I'm not calling them what I want. I'm calling them what they are. Oh, I forgot, man is pejorative to SJW's.
Touche'. I'm not calling you an idiot because I want to.
07-26-2017 , 08:13 PM
I'm so glad we are leaving no stone unturned in getting to the bottom of this Russian meddling. Oh not, wait, nevermind.

Russia probe: Democrats block key witness against shadowy firm Fusion GPS
07-26-2017 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
Your prejudice is why you are a bigot. It's why you insist to call people what you think their genitalia look like.
Oh, I see. I guess I should take all those kids who dress up for Halloween at face value. Do you really believe Freddy Kruger exist, or are you reasonably certain its someone simply pretending to be him?
07-26-2017 , 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot
Here's a good question for those who believe transgenders are a thing:

Is it possible for a male-born individual who identifies as a woman to have been as oppressed by the patriarchy as a female-born woman?


You've objectified transgender people, but only have possession of the "things" you imagine about them, like their genitalia.

      
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