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07-25-2017 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Apparently you don't know what Sanctuary cities are. There's nothing the sanctuary cities have done that changes immigration law. The cities are just saying that their local police forces are not going to enforce federal law. I would think that you would support cities being able to choose what they do with their own staff.

Federal law may take precedence but that does not mean that local law enforcement is obliged to take orders from federal law enforcement.

But I'm granting you too much. This legal argument is b*******. On principle you like local control and do not like centralized power. That's what you said.
States rights only go certain ways.

Still thinking dems should co-opt states rights. Smaller fed means more money the richer blue states get to keep. Legalize drugs and gambling which you tax the crap out of. Than use the money to pay for single payer and a good safety net. After the people in the red states start fleeing to the blue states problem solved.

Downsides are civil war possibility's go up and pollution knows no borders and people getting oppressed.

Last edited by batair; 07-26-2017 at 12:13 AM.
07-25-2017 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot
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Ya we're super jealous of other demographics making gains in the city centers, that's why we're all abandoning ship to the suburbs so fast your ****ing head is spinning.


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Expound on this plz.
07-26-2017 , 12:01 AM
BWAAAAHHHAHAHHHAAA

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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
Fairy tales? WTF dude. Learn some history.

Which party freed the slaves? And from whom did they free them from? (And we're going to have to free them again from Leftist oppression.)

Woodrow Wilson - D on screening the KKK film - The Birth of a Nation.




What did they call the 1924 Democratic National Convention? The WhatBake? - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1924_D...nal_Convention




Robert Byrd was a.......?

Try a dose of reality sometime.
07-26-2017 , 12:01 AM
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07-26-2017 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
+1

Just think how much better a liberals life could be if he stopped being offended by everything. You people continue to stoke the flames of a dying fire. You've become too comfortable with your misery. You have no desire to let go.
You literally had a conniption over the football guy kneeling.
07-26-2017 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
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his hair was perfect
07-26-2017 , 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot
I'm definitely not on the side that anyone who is skeptical of any idea progressives come up with is a bigot.
Okay, I think I'm with you. That's a lot of negatives, though.

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That said, there's a couple important considerations when talking about this transgender thing. The first is that objectively speaking, saying you are a woman trapped in a man's body is almost exactly the same as saying you are Napoleon in DoOrDoNots body or Jesus Christ in legend42s body. In other words, just at face value it rings of a delusion.

The second thing is that this precludes that

1. men and women have vastly different brains (which is something feminists dismiss)
2. it's possible for a womans brain to end up in a mans body from a biological view or vice versa and and that this hypothesis is even disprovable from a scientific point of view
3. the agent in question could tell the difference between themselves having a mans brain in a womans body and acute symptoms of psychosis and
4. Gender is a social construct

Now 4 can be discounted quite easily because male and female identity is correlated in the extreme to biological sex as I said before-0.95

As for the other ones, don't you think it's important to ****ing prove this ****, before you trample all over everyone for being skeptical of it, or force by law little girls to change in the same change-rooms as grown-ass dudes who identify as female? Or giving children hormones a decade or more before their brains are even capable of critical thought? Doesn't that seem....rash and irresponsible not to?
Oh boy, you went that way. Read your last paragraph and then type it again, but please after speaking to a trans-gender person? Any one of them.
07-26-2017 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
Expound on this plz.
Yeah literally the opposite of white flight is happening in almost every major us city. What world is he living in?
07-26-2017 , 01:38 AM
Yeah, them trannies are super dangerous in public bathrooms. Not safe to have in there, unlike Republican politicians who never sexually assault people in public restrooms. They're the real heroes of puritan America. Straight, Christian, god-fearing patriots is what they are. Never will they tap a foot under the stall.
07-26-2017 , 01:41 AM
And Trumpkins like wilch who are quite happy to sexually assault a TG outside a toilet to prevent them from sexually assaulting his daughter inside the toilet, which is inevitable of course.
07-26-2017 , 01:55 AM
Yet they dont mind old men going into teenage girls changing rooms if they have the name donnie. Its a strange world.
07-26-2017 , 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
Yeah, them trannies are super dangerous in public bathrooms. Not safe to have in there, unlike Republican politicians who never sexually assault people in public restrooms. They're the real heroes of puritan America. Straight, Christian, god-fearing patriots is what they are. Never will they tap a foot under the stall.
Why do you people keep bringing these idiotic points up constantly? The chances of being sexually assaulted in a bathroom are miniscule. Just as you said this :

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unlike Republican politicians who never sexually assault people in public restrooms.
Which, has happened in the past, is miniscule.

The % chance of something happening is not the point. The issue is that bathrooms are segregated by GENDER. You can have a woman sexually assault another woman in a bathroom. Everyone realizes this. The issue is that MEN aren't allowed in the FEMALE bathroom. That's it. All this other crap means absolutely nothing.

Leftist arguments are so ridiculous. "Oh but what if a person is a hermaphrodite?" "They just want to pee!" "How many sexual assaults occur from transsexuals?"

All of these arguments are absolutely absurd. IT has nothing to do with the goddamned point. There's ONE criteria - NO MEN. That's it! No one is saying you can't be a minority, or a Christian, or a Democrat, or a midget. The only thing you can't be is a man!
07-26-2017 , 02:37 AM
If the chances of being sexually assaulted in a bathroom are so minuscule, why infringe on the civil rights of the most marginalized group of people in society?

How is the issue of hermaphroditism ridiculous?

If you don't allow men to use public restrooms then you're going to have a lot of guys pissing and ****ting all over the streets. What do you expect people to do? First you want to infringe on the rights of transgender Americans, and now you want to ban all MEN from using public restrooms?

Take a chill pill homie.
07-26-2017 , 03:16 AM
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The % chance of something happening is not the point.
It should be. If we could turn that corner to where decisions are made based on the actual percentages, it would be a HUGE leap forward. Play vs the range. Quit being a little baby trying to live in fantasy land where everything fits into perfect little boxes. **** your "one criteria" bull ****. Grow up and live in the real world, which is messy.
07-26-2017 , 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
If the chances of being sexually assaulted in a bathroom are so minuscule, why infringe on the civil rights of the most marginalized group of people in society?
Sorry you think bathroom choice is a civil right? *snicker

What about pissing outside or in a public building? Piss outside and a cop catches you and you might get cited. Piss inside a public building and you might get arrested. Why aren't you fighting for those noble causes? Oh that's right because it's beyond the scope of your agenda, which does not revolve around civil rights at all but tearing down societal norms for the **** of it, and to acquire power. Cause hey, if you're small inside and feel oppressed nothing empowers one like forcing the majority to comply with strange requests. You can stomp around like you actually matter more than the rest of us. Like you're special.

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How is the issue of hermaphroditism ridiculous?
Hermaphroditism is a legitimate genetic condition. Dressing in the opposite sexes clothes may or may not be one, the jury is out.

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If you don't allow men to use public restrooms then you're going to have a lot of guys pissing and ****ting all over the streets. What do you expect people to do? First you want to infringe on the rights of transgender Americans, and now you want to ban all MEN from using public restrooms?
07-26-2017 , 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
If the chances of being sexually assaulted in a bathroom are so minuscule, why infringe on the civil rights of the most marginalized group of people in society?

How is the issue of hermaphroditism ridiculous?

If you don't allow men to use public restrooms then you're going to have a lot of guys pissing and ****ting all over the streets. What do you expect people to do? First you want to infringe on the rights of transgender Americans, and now you want to ban all MEN from using public restrooms?

Take a chill pill homie.
You don't just take hatchet swings at the foundations of society and expect everything to be better.

upending the entire definition of man and woman for the "rights" of .1% of the population won't turn out well, rights in parenthesis because they are rights that the left defines.

Transgender'd individuals in the western world have freedom of speech and association, they have the right to due process and protection from cruel and unusual punishment. In the US they even have the right to self defense and can own a firearm. ie all the rights every other ****ing person has, that are actual rights and not made up entitlements you've renamed into rights.

The right to saunter into w/e bathroom they choose and the right to be called w/e pronoun you want are not ****ing rights.

funny thing is most transgender'd people don't even want this leftist crap, they just want to be regular people not these special victim snowflakes who wither on the vine when someone misgenders them
07-26-2017 , 05:10 AM
goofyballer got on me about using treason in the way its not supposed to mean. Sure I admit he is right

but leftists all over the world redefine and blur far more important words namely rights.

"health care is a right, education is a right, being called proper pronoun is a right.........."
for the leftists a right is anything that sounds good

**** yo rights
07-26-2017 , 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot
What about pissing outside or in a public building? Piss outside and a cop catches you and you might get cited. Piss inside a public building and you might get arrested. Why aren't you fighting for those noble causes? Oh that's right because it's beyond the scope of your agenda, which does not revolve around civil rights at all but tearing down societal norms for the **** of it, and to acquire power..

I'm sorry, what?
07-26-2017 , 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Iron Tamer
You don't just take hatchet swings at the foundations of society and expect everything to be better.

upending the entire definition of man and woman for the "rights" of .1% of the population won't turn out well, rights in parenthesis because they are rights that the left defines.

Transgender'd individuals in the western world have freedom of speech and association, they have the right to due process and protection from cruel and unusual punishment. In the US they even have the right to self defense and can own a firearm. ie all the rights every other ****ing person has, that are actual rights and not made up entitlements you've renamed into rights.

The right to saunter into w/e bathroom they choose and the right to be called w/e pronoun you want are not ****ing rights.

funny thing is most transgender'd people don't even want this leftist crap, they just want to be regular people not these special victim snowflakes who wither on the vine when someone misgenders them

These bolded things, very important things, this bigly stuff, these are civil liberties. Civil rights is like you cannot open a restaurant and only serve white folk.

The way my excellent Political Science professor put it was civil liberties protect you from the Government, civil rights protect you from everyone else.

Question? Was the 1964 Civil Rights act a hatchet swing at a foundation of society?
07-26-2017 , 08:57 AM
Would you Leftists mind not being so transphobic with your strawmen? Thanks!
07-26-2017 , 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
These bolded things, very important things, this bigly stuff, these are civil liberties. Civil rights is like you cannot open a restaurant and only serve white folk.

The way my excellent Political Science professor put it was civil liberties protect you from the Government, civil rights protect you from everyone else.

Question? Was the 1964 Civil Rights act a hatchet swing at a foundation of society?
We're talking about entering bathrooms because of how you "feel" that day. Don't forget, gender is fluid. Nobody is saying you can't serve transgendered folks in restaurants. Can you stay on point?

Also, my pronoun is "Your Royal Majesty JiggyMac". Please respect my Civil Rights.
07-26-2017 , 09:16 AM
The bathroom coward council never ceases to amaze.
07-26-2017 , 09:23 AM
Subpoena withdrawn from Manafort - will speak with Senate Judiciary and turn over documents.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-ju...-politics.html
07-26-2017 , 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
We're talking about entering bathrooms because of how you "feel" that day. Don't forget, gender is fluid. Nobody is saying you can't serve transgendered folks in restaurants. Can you stay on point?

Also, my pronoun is "Your Royal Majesty JiggyMac". Please respect my Civil Rights.

So your issue is not the imagined threat of transgender people committing sexual assaults in restrooms, it's gender fluidity, where a person might have a "boy mode" they are sometimes in, and a "girl mode" they are sometimes in. Why is this a problem for you?
07-26-2017 , 09:36 AM
Question for all proponents of transgender bathroom laws. Say legislation is passed, either Federally or State level, and it prohibits people from using the restroom of their natal gender.

How do you enforce this?

      
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