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07-18-2017 , 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TiltedDonkey
Yes. If it is asserted that the future outcome will be in the set A, and you refute that assertion, you are yourself making an assertion that the future outcome, call it f, will be in the set U - A where U is the possible universe of outcomes.



"You're wrong" is not equivalent to "I'm right", but they are both statements that are dependent on fact.
Saying the sun will burn out tomorrow is the equivalent to saying the sun will not burn out tomorrow. In your world, they're both predictions. smh

I'd hate to go through life with your levels of pedantry.
07-18-2017 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
Saying the sun will burn out tomorrow is the equivalent to saying the sun will not burn out tomorrow. In your world, they're both predictions. smh

I'd hate to go through life with your levels of pedantry.
Uh, of course they are both predictions. One is a better prediction but that doesn't make it not a prediction. This is called reality.
07-18-2017 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TiltedDonkey
Uh, of course they are both predictions. One is a better prediction but that doesn't make it not a prediction. This is called reality.
Right. The sun not burning out tomorrow is reality, not a prediction.

I'm very impressed with your pedantry. You must be fun at parties.
07-18-2017 , 12:26 PM
wow you're ****ing stupid
07-18-2017 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DoOrDoNot
What's their problem with language anyway? Don't they know that someones use/misuse of language doesn't define what's on the inside? Are they bigoted against Trumpian? This is about as high a crime as claiming ebonics is a sign of low intelligence! What a racist bastard!
most of these liberals in the media are elitist ****s who do think Ebonics is a sign of low intelligence, but can't say it because it'll be racist!

Trump talking like an average person is a high crime and a sign of stupidity in their eyes.
07-18-2017 , 12:34 PM
lol these nyt elitist liberal ****s.

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Recently I took a friend with only a high school degree to lunch. Insensitively, I led her into a gourmet sandwich shop. Suddenly I saw her face freeze up as she was confronted with sandwiches named “Padrino” and “Pomodoro” and ingredients like soppressata, capicollo and a striata baguette. I quickly asked her if she wanted to go somewhere else and she anxiously nodded yes and we ate Mexican.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/o...ype=collection
07-18-2017 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
lol these nyt elitist liberal ****s.



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/o...ype=collection
As an Italian American, I am also offended by this Jewish person's cultural appropriation of my heritage. That's how I'm supposed to Leftist, right?
07-18-2017 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee

Trump talking like an average person...

You are saying that an average person talks like a prejudiced braggart who is frequently vulgar and belittling.
07-18-2017 , 12:46 PM
David Brooks isn't a ****ing liberal
07-18-2017 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
David Brooks isn't a ****ing liberal
Bull****.

You're right though, liberals aren't liberals any more. He's just a bourgeois elitist.

Last edited by JiggyMac; 07-18-2017 at 12:57 PM.
07-18-2017 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
David Brooks isn't a ****ing liberal
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
Bull****.
Jiggy has never heard of David Brooks but has very strong opinions about him LOL
07-18-2017 , 12:54 PM
you believe that the self described "conservative" on the nyt who praises Derrida and Bourdieu is not a liberal

you probally think John Scarborough is also not a liberal lol
07-18-2017 , 12:56 PM
Sometimes when I've never heard of one of the 5 or so most famous columnists in America I like to take a little trip to Wikipedia:
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David Brooks (born August 11, 1961)[1] is a conservative[2][3] American author as well as political and cultural commentator who writes for The New York Times.[4] He has worked as a film critic for The Washington Times, a reporter and later op-ed editor for The Wall Street Journal;[5] a senior editor at The Weekly Standard from its inception; a contributing editor at Newsweek and The Atlantic Monthly; and a commentator on NPR. He is currently a columnist for The New York Times and commentator on PBS NewsHour.[1]
07-18-2017 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
you believe that the self described "conservative" on the nyt who praises Derrida and Bourdieu is not a liberal
I've got to read these Brooks pieces praising Derrida and Bourdieu. That sounds amazing. Do you have any links?
07-18-2017 , 12:58 PM
I read it on wikipedia so it must be true, let me shut off reason and evidence to the contrary because I read it on wikipedia
07-18-2017 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
Right. The sun not burning out tomorrow is reality, not a prediction.

I'm very impressed with your pedantry. You must be fun at parties.
No, tomorrow it will (probably) be reality, but today it is a prediction. I am not that fun at parties but it has little to do with my pedantry.

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Originally Posted by dereds
wow you're ****ing stupid
This.

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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
most of these liberals in the media are elitist ****s who do think Ebonics is a sign of low intelligence, but can't say it because it'll be racist!

Trump talking like an average person is a high crime and a sign of stupidity in their eyes.
I am an elitist. What's your point?
07-18-2017 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by well named
I've got to read these Brooks pieces praising Derrida and Bourdieu. That sounds amazing. Do you have any links?
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/18/o...ype=collection

this is his recent piece on bourdiue, I'll try to find his derrida love piece
07-18-2017 , 01:03 PM
http://www.brandl.com.au/derridas-breakfast/

ah yeah the love fest to our favorite French "philosopher"
07-18-2017 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
you believe that the self described "conservative" on the nyt who praises Derrida and Bourdieu is not a liberal

you probally think John Scarborough is also not a liberal lol
Joe Scarborough was literally a Republican congressman before he went on TV you ignorant dumbass
07-18-2017 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
lol these nyt elitist liberal ****s.



https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/o...ype=collection
Hahaha. Hahahahahahahaha.

Because, you know, that Italian food is so elitist.

Hahahahahahahaha I can't stop laughing. They should have went to a Chinese takeout joint, "egg foo young" would have blown that girls mind!

I'd have just mushed her right into the deli counter.
07-18-2017 , 01:05 PM
I guess Joe really pulled one over on the Florida panhandle when he fooled them into putting a liberal plant in the House for three terms lmao
07-18-2017 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Joe Scarborough was literally a Republican congressman before he went on TV you ignorant dumbass
You think I was unaware of that?

rino's a word for a reason
07-18-2017 , 01:06 PM
wil has definitely also never heard of David Brooks lol
07-18-2017 , 01:06 PM
I wonder how many other people the left hates we can trick these people into also hating by calling them liberal elitists, and then by extension get them to reject their ideas. Judo flip the whole lot of them into Warren voters in 2020 just by saying Bill Kristol opposes her and ****.
07-18-2017 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
http://www.brandl.com.au/derridas-breakfast/

ah yeah the love fest to our favorite French "philosopher"
The Bordieu piece is legit but this book was not written by the David Brooks of the NYT, but by an Australian with the same name. See here.

I just skimmed the Bordieu piece real quick but it's not clear to me how it contains anything that would disqualify a person from identifying as conservative. I mean, it's kind of a fluff piece, but the core argument ("Donald Trump... [is] a genius at the symbolic warfare Bourdieu described. He’s a genius at upending the social rules and hierarchies that the establishment classes (of both right and left) have used to maintain dominance.") doesn't seem like one that's particularly liberal. And I think Bordieu's concept of habitus is fairly useful, sociologically. I also don't see any reason to think of it as a particularly partisan concept. It's just a way of thinking about social capital and its relation to political and economic power.

      
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