You asked what Trump has done to benefit corporations, though, and the answer is clearly that some of the things he's done have done so. Huehuecoyotl posted the best example yet, which you didn't respond to - overturning Obama's overtime rule has nothing to do with barrier to entry or entrenching market position, unless you get so reductionist that you argue anything requiring businesses to pay employees is a "barrier to entry" (might as well outlaw unions at that point). You're already kinda there by suggesting that worker safety regulations are #actually a huge burden to medium sized businesses, rather than providing a benefit to the working class that Trump allegedly fights for.

I'm open to some of your argument and I've been persuaded a little that not all regulations are fully anti-corporate. However, I think you have a bit more work to do beyond blind assertions and a handful of J&J stock to prove that big pharma companies prefer a system that you admit costs them billions in the outset.

I'd add that the other thing you noted in their benefit - that they can charge tons of $$ here - has more to do with our healthcare system and less to do with the safety regulations that make bringing a drug to market so expensive.

Haha wow. For better linkage:

Amazing, lolwil, still undefeated

btw the "still undefeated" meme that I like to apply to make fun of wil led me to a couple more instances where he was proven wrong

in b4 "NO BETS THO"

Hey goofy, did you see the French president scurry over to stand next to President Trump at the photo shoot? They can't get enough of him.

Boy, what an impact he is having on the world stage.

Macron is awesome. He stood next to Putin and slammed him for ****ing with their election (contrast that with Trump meeting Putin and being like "Putin said he didn't do anything, I believe him"), and when Trump withdrew from the Paris accord he gave a speech in better English than Trump can speak telling intelligent Americans they have a home in France and to make the planet great again.

Trump is giving up America's role in global leadership and Macron is smart enough to try to grab what pieces of it he can before China takes it all.

LOL no. Macron looks up to Trump. He's like his hero.

You could tell by the way he just had to stand beside him. He was like a little puppy looking at his master.

From the gift Trump handed him in withdrawing from Paris, that might be true!

I couldn't

I can't imagine why you'd think it's necessary to quantify or rank all the ways that people can be disadvantaged in life to acknowledge that some people have it easier than others.


"Almost no one is successful without hard work" is lol unless you're equating hard work with putting time and effort into something. All things take some sacrifice - that doesn't mean the work:reward ratio will be the same.

Rich idiots don't go broke because of their work ethic, they go broke because they're idiots. The world is filled with hard working idiots too some of whom make a lot of money. You think they were walking down the street one day and decided to go down their career path? Or maybe.... just maybe that things happen for a reason?

% of rich idiots who go broke < % of less rich idiots who go broker

98% of the time I start here in wnRAF and then read the main P forum, because doing the opposite is completely jarring.

I hope somebody told this simple mother****er that the bolded is exactly the point.

They're stupid.

They're so, so ****ing stupid.

This.

It's at the top spot in my Crazy Pills Power Rankings.

The cause is more that love is blind than stupidity I think, though they are of course also stupid.

Trumpkins are mostly powerless, feeble people (just look at his supporters here) who get off on someone acting the way he does, and are stupid enough to mistake artifice for reality.

Yeah, both Afghanistan and Iraq were well ****ed by 2008. I recently read a book on Afghanistan (No Good Men Among the Living) and it seems like Afghanistan could have gone a much better direction, but things went pretty stupid almost immediately after the very quick military route of the Taliban.

It's also another contradiction of the 'politics don't count' take.

I'm totally The Boy Who Cried Peak Wil.

Like, wtf am I even reading right now?

Right, I mean, that's what we were talking about in regards to mini-trumps the other day but the whole business got spirited away to the LC Thread.

I think your problem is that the idea of "peak wil" denies the reality that wil is always at full blast.

(thanks for the recommendation)

Also, there's this weird mix of disingenuousness and concern trolling where they blame O for the ME when he did exactly what they wanted him to do!

You personally, microbet, have criticized O for his hawkishness, which is pretty much a fact. Some might not call it 'hawkishness' and others might say it he was forced to play a bad hand, that he was hamstrung, et cetera, but the fact is he continued the wars. That is what they wanted, and now somehow O is blamed for the ME being a mess. 'War Is Hell' is the premier phrase but 'War Makes Messes' also works.

It's like this: there's a scene from The Wire where Bunk's wife calls him home to deal with a mouse, basically by any means necessary. So, he fires two shots, one hitting the armoire and the other hitting the mouse. We can't let terrorist mice win.

Even at full throttle though, there has to be, objectively, a Most Ridiculous And Dumb Post/Exchange that can be quantified but somehow it keeps being topped.

p.s. I mean, I'm not exaggerating when I say that with this exchange between you two, 'politics don't count,' his part is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. I don't mean from him, or on 2p2. I mean all things ever.

I laughed pretty hard at this. It echoed through the house.

This is breathtakingly stupid even for you. I'm human, I misread and make mistakes and typos too.

What do you think my point was? You can't group people in these buckets and simply say "oh these people have it so much easier than these other people" and hold it against one group. We can only look at things as individuals. No where in the world are people born under the same circumstances and there never will be. Disadvantaged? Yeah great. Get on with it or go lay down in the corner and cry.


I never said it was. The work is required somewhere, though, for the vast majority of people.


Rich idiots go broke because they don't put in the work understanding risk and the ventures they enter into. The world is full of smart, unsuccessful people. They are everywhere. What is the difference between them and successful people? Effort.

Did you ever give up that stuff that sounded like lost cause nonsense?