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07-09-2017 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
what exactly has trump done thats so much worse than W or Obama

as far as I see it now hes objectively better than both those idiots 7 months in
Ith becauth heth hurt their feelinth and heth a big meanie!!
07-09-2017 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
cnn is not pushing fakenews.

the dnc and hillary et al had nothing to do with seth rich murder so no, fox should not have been covering it like they did.
I don't see how a reasonable person can hold this position. CNN is absolutely pushing a false narrative. If you are trying to argue that the particular stories aren't "fake", then I may be able to see that. The overall narrative, however, is without question an utter joke.

From what I can tell CNN will see a backlash against them very shortly. Trump will defeat yet another opponent.

**** CNN. Complete garbage, and an example of why being dishonest and manipulative in the end hurts no one but yourself. I hope the entire network implodes.

Anyone here defending them should be looked at with suspicion. They are indefensible at this point.
07-09-2017 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
You don't seem to be a very good judge of people.
If it were possible to bet, I would make a pretty substantial wager that GW Bush had the lowest IQ of any modern day president. I would also bet he was among the least qualified. Yet, he looks like an absolute genius compared to Trump who has ZERO qualifications. Zero. Nada. Zilch. Bupkis.

And the conversation (along with the election) should have ended right there. ZERO qualified with multiple bankruptcies, the temperament and manners of an unruly 3rd grader, and a con artist of a businessman. Now you add all the psychological and pathological illnesses associated with Trump, sprinkle in the racism, etc. and I'm dumbfounded how any sensible American voted for him.

And before batair or others jump in to say they thought my rants were supposed to explain how Trump got elected... They are merely meant to explain how people were able to overlook things like racism and insanely obvious faults due to being fiercely attacked by the far left. It's a herd mentality. People in large numbers are dumb and the collective IQ drops off precipitously.

Last edited by Lestat; 07-09-2017 at 01:11 PM.
07-09-2017 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
And no, you don't have to be at war with someone to have committed treason.
In the United States of America, you actually do.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381
07-09-2017 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
what exactly has trump done thats so much worse than W or Obama
There are actually some issues (such as infrastructure) that I agree with him on. However, he is grossly unqualified and mentally unfit.

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as far as I see it now hes objectively better than both those idiots 7 months in
I voted for Obama and was very fed up with him by year 4, but just as in this election, there was no better person to vote for. I am not an Obama fan boy by any sense. But how about you tell me what he's done that's so much better than Obama?
07-09-2017 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I don't see how a reasonable person can hold this position.
Of course you don't. Because you are not a reasonable person.
07-09-2017 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I don't see how a reasonable person can hold this position. CNN is absolutely pushing a false narrative. If you are trying to argue that the particular stories aren't "fake", then I may be able to see that. The overall narrative, however, is without question an utter joke.

From what I can tell CNN will see a backlash against them very shortly. Trump will defeat yet another opponent.

**** CNN. Complete garbage, and an example of why being dishonest and manipulative in the end hurts no one but yourself. I hope the entire network implodes.
I used to watch CNN (BF..before Trump) because I thought the were more objective than Fox. I can absolutely see a huge difference now. There is no doubt they are instructed to seek out only the negative of Trump. They are obviously embelleshing stories and telling half truths in addition to the fake news.
07-09-2017 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
I used to watch CNN (BF..before Trump) because I thought the were more objective than Fox. I can absolutely see a huge difference now. There is no doubt they are instructed to seek out only the negative of Trump. They are obviously embelleshing stories and telling half truths in addition to the fake news.
I completely agree with this and it's shameful to watch. But can you please provide an instance of actual "fake" news? When CNN gets something wrong, they retract it afaik. If they do not, please cite an example. I'm sure people can come up with hundreds of examples for Fox. Heck, birtherism alone was ridiculous, not to mention Seth Rich.
07-09-2017 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
Of course you don't. Because you are not a reasonable person.
I think I'm quite reasonable, but you are welcome to your opinion.

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Originally Posted by mongidig
I used to watch CNN (BF..before Trump) because I thought the were more objective than Fox. I can absolutely see a huge difference now. There is no doubt they are instructed to seek out only the negative of Trump. They are obviously embelleshing stories and telling half truths in addition to the fake news.
Exactly right. What's so bad about all this is I used to love CNN. Now I simply don't trust them.
07-09-2017 , 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
There are actually some issues (such as infrastructure) that I agree with him on. However, he is grossly unqualified and mentally unfit.



I voted for Obama and was very fed up with him by year 4, but just as in this election, there was no better person to vote for. I am not an Obama fan boy by any sense. But how about you tell me what he's done that's so much better than Obama?
The US was seen as weak under Obama. Obama made his big apology speech to the Arab nations...How did that work out? The middle East is a disaster. Obama was passive and predictable.

If you had to play Trump or Obama in a HU poker match who would you choose? Obama obviously because he is passive and predictable. Trump would be tough to play against because he is aggressive and unpredictable. This is what makes Trump a better President.

Imagine what Trump would accomplish if the anti Americans weren't sabotaging his Presidency.
07-09-2017 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
In the United States of America, you actually do.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381
Can you show me which war was declared on Russia by which the Rosenbergs were convicted? If not, shut up.
07-09-2017 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
There are actually some issues (such as infrastructure) that I agree with him on. However, he is grossly unqualified and mentally unfit.



I voted for Obama and was very fed up with him by year 4, but just as in this election, there was no better person to vote for. I am not an Obama fan boy by any sense. But how about you tell me what he's done that's so much better than Obama?
he canceled the tpp that obama was trying to pass thank god
he took the US out of the paris accords
hes actually repealing unconstitutional gun control laws.

you may not like the above policies but atleast hes doing the things he promised in his campaign and hes not acting in the interests of corporations.

The minute Barry took office he became a corporate stooge. bailouts for all the multinationals, continuing and in some cases expanding Bush's unconstitutional spying program on the american people, expanding the drone program after his peace prize, and his signature piece of legislation the affordable care act is a complete disaster.

Barry is a horrible president based on the things hes done, even tho hes "presidential" and speaks in that fake pompous politician speech pattern the left loves so much now for some reason. Saying trump is incompetent and stupid is not an argument, you've never said what hes done thats bad.
07-09-2017 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I think I'm quite reasonable, but you are welcome to your opinion.



Exactly right. What's so bad about all this is I used to love CNN. Now I simply don't trust them.
You can also see the difference in their facial expressions and tone. I used to be impressed by their professionalism and lack of partisanship. Now it's so discustingly obvious.
07-09-2017 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
The US was seen as weak under Obama. Obama made his big apology speech to the Arab nations...How did that work out? The middle East is a disaster. Obama was passive and predictable.

If you had to play Trump or Obama in a HU poker match who would you choose? Obama obviously because he is passive and predictable. Trump would be tough to play against because he is aggressive and unpredictable. This is what makes Trump a better President.

Imagine what Trump would accomplish if the anti Americans weren't sabotaging his Presidency.
Ironically I was listening to a few foreign policy experts this weekend and they said on issues like North Korea Trump has become less credible because he constantly blusters and more predictable because he ultimately settles down on more or less what Obama's strategy was because he doesn't have the discipline or energy to formulate something substantially different. He went from wanting China to help with North Korea, to saying 'well they tried', to saying they weren't helping which is exactly what would happen if some naive guy who didn't know what China's position was tried the same thing that previous presidents had.

Same with Syria, Trump's plan is just a continuation of Obama's plan more or less.

Though Trump seems like a giant p*ssy for paling around with the country that preformed an attack on American democracy, but given that Trump benefited from it personally and Republicans as a party its understandable that they don't care too much about it.

Last edited by Huehuecoyotl; 07-09-2017 at 01:44 PM.
07-09-2017 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger




https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...16887692234753
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...18776391503872
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...20939264073728
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Originally Posted by Our House
Yeah, read the comments to Rubio. There's a near unanimous push going on. The American people have had enough. Will GOP feel it in time?

https://twitter.com/marcorubio/statu...22979004428289


So the thing we will do to protect our elections is work with the people who attempted to hack them in a joint cyber security unit. Jesus. Thats not really hitting them back ten times harder. What a joke of a president who will not even defend one of our most basic rights.

Last edited by batair; 07-09-2017 at 01:55 PM.
07-09-2017 , 02:13 PM
It takes particular mindsets and emotional states to ban grandparents.
07-09-2017 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
you may not like the above policies but atleast hes doing the things he promised in his campaign and hes not acting in the interests of corporations.
lmao this is INCREDIBLE. Trump has done almost nothing he promised during the campaign and he is acting entirely in the interest of corporations! How do people actually wind up believing things like this??
07-09-2017 , 02:35 PM
It's as something someone in P just pointed out: most of people's opinions are emotion-based, that 'facts' are twisted and back-fitted to support.
07-09-2017 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
It's as something someone in P just pointed out: most of people's opinions are emotion-based, that 'facts' are twisted and back-fitted to support.
That poster sounds pretty sharp.
07-09-2017 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
It's as something someone in P just pointed out: most of people's opinions are emotion-based, that 'facts' are twisted and back-fitted to support.
Did you just say "emotion-based"?
07-09-2017 , 02:48 PM
Oh it was you, was it?

I couldn't be arsed to go back and check.
07-09-2017 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Did you just say "emotion-based"?
Yes, as in based upon emotion.

Got a problem?
07-09-2017 , 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Yes, as in based upon emotion.

Got a problem?
Mongidig very dispassionately thinks that liberals with their obvious emotion-based decisions need to be lined up in an orderly fashion, and without emotion, executed for treason.
07-09-2017 , 03:03 PM
No, he's trying to be a grammar-Nazi and failing miserably, predictably.
07-09-2017 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JiggyMac
Can you show me which war was declared on Russia by which the Rosenbergs were convicted? If not, shut up.
The Rosenbergs were convicted under the Espionage Act 1917, which is not the same thing as treason.

      
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