Again, unless you're asserting that your statements are just random thoughts with no connection to the previous conversation, you very much did directly imply that complaints about "discrimination" are unjustified because the discrimination is just the completely valid expression of a dislike of thuggery (You wrote: "Some people think that's racism. I do not.")

If that's not what you meant, then your last few posts are complete non-sequiturs.

I'm saying there very well may be some discrimination when it comes to appearance/dress. I do not associate that with skin color, and I do not feel that other people do, from a city dweller's view.

TiltedDonkey, his incompetence concerns me, yes. To what effect? What are you saying? You ask if I "support" him. I support policies. Not sure what you're saying if he fails to implement a policy he wanted to implement. I should stop supporting him? That sounds to me like an evaluation to be made next election cycle. Re taxes, I'm saying that if you treat taxes as a separate issue from spending then lower taxes is good. When people want higher taxes it's always because they want higher spending to go with that.

I don't have time now for more but wanted to give a partial response now.

Oh, and no, I'm not religious. I like Pentz because he's a good insider polititian. I think the political (beltway) success that Trump has had is partially due to Pentz.

Ok. It's prejudicial of you to assume that most discrimination experienced by black people is a function of appearance. In many cases that's pretty implausible, for example with racial profiling in traffic stops, or studies that compare interview response rates on resumes. It's also -- literally -- prejudicial to discriminate against someone because of the way they look, regardless of race.

You argue that you don't think it's racism (but just some justifiable prejudice against that style of appearance), but you also point out that the style of appearance in question is closely tied to racial identity. Discriminating against a person on the basis of an attribute that is closely tied to racial identity is very literally racism. In the most straightforward and traditional way.

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Goodyballer, it was mean to call me deplorable. I don't appreciate that.

And I am offended by your implication (or statement) that I don't care about the lives of brown people, as you put it.

Sounds like mumbo jumbo to me. Some days I dress better than others. I am very often treated differently when I'm dressed in business attire than basketball shorts. I am keenly aware of it, too. I do not attribute it to racism.

Dude, context matters. Reread what you quoted and how you responded. I was gonna give you the benefit but your subsequent posts doubled down. I dont think any reasonable person would disagree.

Again, the original context of this derail was discrimination within the criminal justice system. That's not "some random people were nicer to me on the street". You're ignoring the meaning of the term discrimination in this context, which doesn't mean literally any differential treatment whatsoever, however trivial.

If you think is true, you might want to vote for people who agree with you.

I was agreeing that people have prejudicial thoughts on appearance and interaction. I do not attribute it to race, and I don't think most people do. This disproportionately hurts blacks.

Is that clear, or not?

Ah, no, that's not what I meant. My question was why do you think African Americans, on average, are so thuggish?

Well I think it's very much an evaluation to be made now, especially considering the unique situation we find ourselves in.

I mean, sure, but this seems like a fairly obvious point. Obviously no one wants higher taxes just for the sake of paying them.

So I guess my question is why do you support reduced spending?

Does it concern you that Pence is super religious and that these views will impact his policy decisions?

African Americans are not "thuggish". I do not know any thuggish African Americans personally.

It's an inner city thing, just as "hillbillies" are a rural thing. Most "hillbillies" are white. This does not make all whites "hillbilly-ish".

Okay, but if African Americans are not thuggish, why do they get discriminated against because people dislike thuggish behavior?

Because crime and violence are happening disproportionately in inner cities. Many inner cities are made up of minorities. I don't think of Hispanics as being particularly violent, yet I'd bet if we looked at jails in Los Angeles we would see a lot of Hispanics there, because a lot of Hispanics live in LA, in poor neighborhoods filled with crime.

What is so hard to understand here?

Why do Hispanics live in poor neighborhoods filled with crime?

I think you're asking do I support impeachment. No.

Re spending, I gave my reasons. You pay people to not work, they don't work. Also, taxes and spending are tied together. I believe that leaving money in private hands is good for everyone, including the poor.

No, not worried at all about Pence's religious views. What concerns you there?

That is part of what I'm asking. Why don't you support impeachment?

Right, but you indicated that you do not support zero entitlements, just less than we have currently. So,

1) Why less than we have currently?
2) Why not zero?

I've never said this.

Why are your posts filled with questions?

Ya see i take issue with this. Why dont you support leaving money in the hands of the poor? If you want money to end up there, then why not cut their taxes? Why cut the rich and hope it ends up helping them? Why hope and believe and even pray that giving the rich more money will end up helping the poor despite all evidence proofing otherwise?

If you want to help the poor with more money, why not just do it? Why must it go through the rich first?

Poor people don't pay federal taxes.

We don't have any evidence of a high crime or misdemeanor. Do you support impeachment? If so, why?

I mean there has to be an underlying crime. If firing Comey or talking to him about the Flynn investigation is a problem, the problem only exists if the firing or conversation was to cover up a crime. What is that crime? Not what you think there might be, but what we have proof of?

Maybe the FBI can continue to investigate. I would think so. Maybe we will need a special investigator. I don't know.

Re entitlements, it's a balancing question. I look around and think we need less entitlements and less taxes. Do you think we need more entitlements? Why?

I don't want to go to zero, because I think it's a balance. Protecting the worst off in society is needed.

I don't think Victor understands how the tax code actually works.

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Why not?