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05-09-2017 , 09:53 PM
These items from the main forum are good:

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Originally Posted by 13ball
https://twitter.com/SenatorBurr/stat...92007707209730


That's a Republican senator :O
But hey, mongi thinks it's cool

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Originally Posted by 13ball
https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/statu...91293912162306



They are as dumb as we thought they were.
Donald Trump is so incredibly dumb that he did not think it would raise eyebrows to fire the guy tasked with investigating him.
05-09-2017 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
You didn't answer the question. What changed?
Ask Trump.
05-09-2017 , 09:59 PM
It's incredible how fast mongi curls up into a ball if you ask him to defend his ideas.
05-09-2017 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
These items from the main forum are good:



But hey, mongi thinks it's cool



Donald Trump is so incredibly dumb that he did not think it would raise eyebrows to fire the guy tasked with investigating him.
Trump isn't being investigated. This is not a criminal investigation. It's a national security investigation.
05-09-2017 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
It's incredible how fast mongi curls up into a ball if you ask him to defend his ideas.
Whats more incredible is how you fall for my subtle word play every single time. I think the others know what I'm talking about.
05-09-2017 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
Trump isn't being investigated. This is not a criminal investigation. It's a national security investigation.
Just wanted to remind everyone that the authenticity of what was released have not been credibly challenged.

We are conducting a national security investigation about how the depths of corruption of a major political figure was exposed. The investigation will definitively answer the question:

How did the truth get out and how can we never let that happen again?
05-10-2017 , 12:19 AM


Senator, R-AZ
05-10-2017 , 12:40 AM
Politico article on Comey's firing

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He had grown enraged by the Russia investigation, two advisers said, frustrated by his inability to control the mushrooming narrative around Russia. He repeatedly asked aides why the Russia investigation wouldn’t disappear and demanded they speak out for him. He would sometimes scream at television clips about the probe, one adviser said.
lol this sad, scared, pathetic little man you guys support

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But the fallout seemed to take the White House by surprise. Trump made a round of calls around 5 p.m., asking for support from senators. White House officials believed it would be a "win-win" because Republicans and Democrats alike have problems with the FBI director, one person briefed on their deliberations said.

Instead, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer told him he was making a big mistake — and Trump seemed "taken aback," according to a person familiar with the call.

By Tuesday evening, the president was watching the coverage of his decision and frustrated no one was on TV defending him
, a White House official said. He wanted surrogates out there beating the drum.
Just completely clueless!
05-10-2017 , 10:32 AM
its comical to go over to fox news and read the headlines vs all the hysterical left. two totally different worlds

im no expert on comey but it seems obvious he became far too political given his position. i don't know when the right time to fire him would have been but if trump sneezes its going to get linked to russia by the hysterical portion of the left
05-10-2017 , 10:52 AM
You see nothing wrong with the president firing the head of the agency investigating him? Seriously?
05-10-2017 , 11:26 AM
yeah of course thats an issue. but comey probably needed to go so when do you do it?

keep in mind this russia hysteria hasn't really materialized anything more than a conspiracy theory at this point. thats been the goal all along. its a good and dirty political tactic. it seems highly unrealistic that theres any substance to the russia hysteria and the comey firing is a perfect example as to how valuable it is for the dems to keep it alive
05-10-2017 , 11:29 AM
So courts in VA are just meeting and warrants have been issued for the fun of it? But yea no substance Juan.
05-10-2017 , 11:34 AM
settle down, its just an opinion

the length of investigation and lack of evidence to this point is hard to deny. they caught trump talking about grabbing pussies while he was wearing a mic and now we are supposed to believe he's mr stealth? i doubt it. maybe theres something in his tax return but i suspect hes hiding that for ego
05-10-2017 , 11:49 AM
To say his intentions aren't suspect is as dishonest as saying it's conclusive that he's guilty.

I love how dishonest tucker carlson tried to spin it by asking "but isnt the best thing for america that we got rid of an incompetent fbi director?". You can be happy about him being replaced and still see it as a huge red flag.
05-10-2017 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
if trump sneezes its going to get linked to russia by the hysterical portion of the left
If Trump is innocent on Russia, he made his own mess by praising Putin, threatening to weaken NATO, signalling that Russian annexation of Crimea was no big deal, asking for Russians to release emails, hiring Manifort, hiring Carter Page, hiring Michael Flynn, hiring Rex Tillerson, freaking out over any mention of Russian connections, firing Yates, firing Comey, denying evidence that Russians were behind DNC hack, trying to change the GOP position on Ukraine, lying about trying to change the GOP position on Ukraine, Jeff Sessions misleading on his Russian contacts, bringing Manifort back into his circle after firing him during the campaign, praising Putin's move after the Obama admin sanctioned Russia, asking the FBI to knock down reports about Russia-Trump communications...and, oh, yes--sneezing.
05-10-2017 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
its comical to go over to fox news and read the headlines vs all the hysterical left. two totally different worlds
Yeah hmm gee I wonder why

05-10-2017 , 12:11 PM
right, the russian interference and collusion with trump are two separate issues though. yes, not totally separate but theres a difference. it seems like theres a consensus that russia was trying to interfere. it also looks like the sober people admit they don't have any evidence for trump collusion

both sides of the media are clearly biased. thats a big problem. that was my point, its like looking at two different worlds. the left is hysterical because things aren't going their way though
05-10-2017 , 12:22 PM
Curious to think about what level of outrage and 'freakouts' would have resulted from Trump sacking Comey immediately upon being sworn in. I know that 4 months of ze Russians narrative has probably helped amplify the current response, but one has to wonder if there was any time and under any conditions that Comey could have been fired by Trump and not elicited at least some level of the current response.

Personally I would have been more anxious and 'freaking out' a bit more had Trump instantly sacked him.

Whole thing is of course a ****show and at the end of the day WAAF.
05-10-2017 , 12:47 PM
So weird that people on the right are making noise about this too given that we know it's all just lefty hysteria
05-10-2017 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
Curious to think about what level of outrage and 'freakouts' would have resulted from Trump sacking Comey immediately upon being sworn in. I know that 4 months of ze Russians narrative has probably helped amplify the current response, but one has to wonder if there was any time and under any conditions that Comey could have been fired by Trump and not elicited at least some level of the current response.

Personally I would have been more anxious and 'freaking out' a bit more had Trump instantly sacked him.

Whole thing is of course a ****show and at the end of the day WAAF.
Instant firing would have been weird timing - Comey helped Trump, what motivation would he have had to fire him immediately?

That's kinda the entire point here, that this isn't just a random arbitrary point in time for him to get fired; the administration is transparently lying about the reasons for doing it and the timing is not a coincidence at all.
05-10-2017 , 12:52 PM
I don't consider it hysteria, and when I said 'freaking out' I grouped myself right in there.

I am just stating that it seems likely that at no point since being sworn in could Trump have fired Comey without a resulting response similar to what we see now.

And that personally my 'shook-o-meter' would have been pegged a decent bit higher had it happened directly after being sworn in than today, though still shook.
05-10-2017 , 12:54 PM
I think an instant firing would have resulted in a lot more "IT IS A COUP!!!!!" tweets than "well that is weird timing, what motivation could Trump have for firing Comey immediately?" tweets.
05-10-2017 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
I think an instant firing would have resulted in a lot more "IT IS A COUP!!!!!" tweets than "well that is weird timing, what motivation could Trump have for firing Comey immediately?" tweets.
That's probably correct.

But like, my point is, think about why the instant firing world is a hypothetical one that didn't and likely never would have come to fruition, while the firing on day ~110 for made-up reasons world is the one we live in.
05-10-2017 , 01:04 PM
Thankfully some of those answers lie in Trump's incompetence, which is why the hypothesized timeline shook-meter would have been higher.

But I understand why the response is what it is across the board.

      
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