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04-29-2017 , 09:18 PM

#4801

mongidig

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

In addition to Victor's accurate rebuttal to "one crazy guy, not widespread":

This happened TODAY lmao

Yet again you will show a bunch of Nazi want to be's, but you won't show a real threat, Muslims chanting death too Jews and America.

Why is this?

04-29-2017 , 09:44 PM

#4802

aoFrantic

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Show one recent incident of a large group of Muslims doing that in the USA recently.
Goofy has shown you many examples of neo nazi terrorism of late.

04-29-2017 , 10:15 PM

#4803

goofyballer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mongidig

Yet again you will show a bunch of Nazi want to be's, but you won't show a real threat

Honestly don't know what's funnier between this and Sean Spicer's "holocaust centers"

04-30-2017 , 02:36 AM

#4804

TrumpTrain

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

A gold star mother and father spoke at the DNC and Trump attacked them, lol mongidig

Thanks for pointing out the difference.

The Khan's used their position at a DNC event for political expediency and Trump called them out on it.

This gold star family on the other hand was participating in an event for a sport that is part of Americana and the crowd recognized their sacrifice and sincerity with chats of "USA."

04-30-2017 , 02:57 AM

#4805

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mongidig

Yet again you will show a bunch of Nazi want to be's, but you won't show a real threat, Muslims chanting death too Jews and America.

Why is this?

Trumpkins are so bad that their actual defense is, "we're not as bad as ISIS."

04-30-2017 , 03:47 AM

#4806

BroadwaySushy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

In addition to Victor's accurate rebuttal to "one crazy guy, not widespread":

This happened TODAY lmao

Come on goofy (and einbert), really?

That's not a crowd. It's a bunch of idiots pretending to be Nazis. One look at a real Nazi and they would probably all wet their pants.

04-30-2017 , 03:58 AM

#4807

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Originally Posted by microbet

Trumpkins are so bad that their actual defense is, "we're not as bad as ISIS."

White supremacists kill way more then ISIS in the US. Its not even close.

04-30-2017 , 09:04 AM

#4808

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Nazis and white nationalists just out in the open at Trump rallies now.

https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/stat...55688779112449

Keystone United
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h...eystone-united

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The Keystone State Skinheads (KSS) formed near Harrisburg, Pa., in 2001. Like most racist skinhead outfits, the group says it is dedicated to white supremacy and cleaning up white society so that America will be more like "many other once great European nations." KSS says it is committed to "being active in our communities, public awareness, contacting local politicians, or just simply showing people we are not ashamed of who we are." Though the group holds picnics, hikes and other events it claims are "family-friendly," it has a history of criminal violence.

Membership quickly spread across the state, with associates in neighboring New Jersey and Maryland. In its early years, KSS was associated with the notoriously violent Hammerskin Nation — KSS helped organize the 2003 Hammerfest, a skinhead rock festival.

As KSS membership has flourished over the course of the crew's relatively brief history, the rap sheets of many of its prominent members have grown at a brisk pace as well. In June of 2002, three KSS members — Douglas Sonier, Joseph Hoesch and co-founder Robert Gaus — were arrested for assaulting a man who asked them to stop throwing food at his table at a diner in Feasterville, Pa., near Philadelphia. The three pleaded guilty to simple assault and were given suspended sentences.

In September that same year, three more KSS members — Todd Sager, Jason Hayden and Christopher Keough — attacked former KSS member Christopher Morosko after he refused to return his KSS colors. In March 2003, all three assailants pleaded guilty to assault and were sentenced to time served.

Also in March 2003, another three KSS members — Keith Carney, Steve Monteforte and Steven Smith — were arrested in Scranton for beating up Antoni Williams, a black man, using stones and chunks of pavement. Smith, a co-founder of the KSS, is a former Aryan Nations member and former leader of the Philadelphia chapter of National Association for the Advancement of White People, which was created by former Klan leader David Duke but is no longer associated with him. Smith was recruited into the neo-Nazi movement when he was a soldier at Fort Bragg, N.C. Carney is a former member of the neo-Nazi National Alliance who was arrested in December 2001 for placing National Alliance stickers on the Korean War and Vietnam Veterans memorials in Philadelphia. In the 2003 case, Smith and Monteforte pleaded guilty to terrorist threats and ethnic intimidation, with Monteforte getting a suspended sentence of a year's probation; Smith received a 60-day sentence and probation. Carney was charged with violating the terms of his probation from a previous criminal conviction and sentenced to a year in prison.

In April 2003, two KSS Lancaster chapter skinheads were charged with making terroristic threats and ethnic intimidation for racist and threatening comments directed at three black people in an area bar. The next documented violent incident involving KSS came in January 2006, when KSS Wilkes-Barre region leader Jason Honeywell was arrested for allegedly stabbing two anti-racist SHARP (Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice) skinheads outside an all-ages punk rock club. The stabbing occurred during a melée that erupted in the club and spread outside after KSS members made sieg-heil salutes and obscene gestures toward the black singer of the band River Side Riot, which was performing at the time. Both SHARPs — Timothy David Alonso and Sean Fitzmaurice — were severely injured. Honeywell was charged with four counts of aggravated assault.

Two weeks after the stabbings, the leader of the Pittsburgh and Greensburg chapters of the KSS, Todd Sager, was charged with criminal solicitation to commit homicide and criminal solicitation to commit aggravated assault. Sager was accused of ordering another KSS member, Edward Robert Locke, to stab a third KSS member during a brawl at a New Stanton sports bar. The fight erupted after the skinheads began allegedly harassing a mixed-race couple. Locke was charged with aggravated assault and attempted murder. The attempted murder charge was later dismissed.

In January 2007, KSS members Kenneth Hoover and Charles Marovskis were arrested for the 1998 murder of two homeless men in Tampa, Fla. At the time of the killing, the two were members of the Tampa division of Blood & Honour. The victims were attacked with a tire iron and an axe.

In 2009, KSS changed its name to Keystone United.

04-30-2017 , 04:06 PM

#4809

13ball

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Unless I missed it, no one even mentioned the white nationalist plot to blow up an apartment complex in Kansas:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/state...108367907.html

Quote:

Federal investigators said Friday they stopped a domestic terrorism plot by a militia group that planned to detonate bombs at a Garden City apartment complex where a number of Somalis live.

Three southwest Kansas men were arrested and charged in federal court with domestic terrorism, Acting U.S. Attorney Tom Beall said at a news conference in downtown Wichita.

The three are suspected of conspiring to set off a bomb where about 120 people — including many Muslim immigrants from Somalia — live and worship, Beall said.

Quote:

The bombing was scheduled for Nov. 9 so as to not affect the general election.

Clearly we should be concerned about terrorism from Muslim radicals, right-wing radicals and left-wing radicals. And probably Belgians.

04-30-2017 , 04:08 PM

#4810

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NYT on a curious loophole Trump's new corporate tax rate will allow, unless specifically addressed, that would cost the government tons in tax revenue

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For example, I am currently an employee of The New York Times, paid a salary every two weeks to write articles about economics. My earnings are labor income; I happen to be in the 28 percent tax bracket.

Suppose I instead formed Irwin Scribblings L.L.C., a “company” dedicated to providing economics writing services. Irwin Scribblings could then contract with The Times to provide articles about economics for a rate equivalent to the value of my current salary and benefits.

Under current law, I would pay the same taxes on that business income that I do on personal income. In important ways I would be worse off, as I would need to pay more of my own payroll taxes, wouldn’t have unemployment insurance, and would need to get health insurance through some channel other than my employer.

But under the Trump tax plan, my tax rate would fall to 15 percent from 28 percent, saving thousands of dollars a year — enough to justify those annoyances.

Higher earners have even more to gain from this trick.

As the article notes, this is the same thing Kansas (aka the dumpster fire of GOP wet dream economic policies) already tried, with disastrous results:

Quote:

In 2012, Kansas enacted a tax cut package that reduced income tax rates while completely eliminating income tax on pass-through entities like LLCs, S corps, partnerships, farms, and sole proprietorships. At the time, we warned that the pass-through exemption did not have good economic justification and would “encourage economically inefficient, though tax-reducing” restructuring activity. We also warned that the “tax reductions, while producing positive economic benefits, would cost revenue and ultimately need to be paid for either by cutting spending or increasing taxes elsewhere.”

In 2013, revenue dropped by $700 million ($300 million more than predicted). Spending that year was only cut $150 million. These numbers are quite large for a $6 billion general revenue fund. The state delayed a planned cut to the sales tax, weakened the generosity of itemized deductions, and drew down reserves to make ends meet.

04-30-2017 , 04:08 PM

#4811

goofyballer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mongidig

Yet again you will show a bunch of Nazi want to be's, but you won't show a real threat

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13ball

Unless I missed it, no one even mentioned the white nationalist plot to blow up an apartment complex in Kansas:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/state...108367907.html

rofl

04-30-2017 , 04:19 PM

#4812

goofyballer

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Despite his proclamations that 100 days is a stupid standard that nobody cares about, Trump wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post about his. It opens like so:

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One hundred days ago, I took the oath of office and made a pledge: We are not merely going to transfer political power from one party to another, but instead are going to transfer that power from Washington, D.C., and give it back to the people.

In the past 100 days, I have kept that promise — and more.

bahahhahaha omg, stop, this is too much

04-30-2017 , 04:30 PM

#4813

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A few quick hits since I know the SPAM crew will get upset if the dissemination of information is spread across too many posts at once:

- Erdogan - you know, the guy Trump called to congratulate on his dictatorship victory - shut down Wikipedia in the entire country and banned TV dating shows
- On a similar note, Trump invited the Philippines' president Duterte to the White House - you know, the guy who's murdering anyone in his country suspected of being involved with drugs. Or, as the White House puts it:

Quote:

Mr. Trump had a “very friendly conversation with Mr. Duterte,” according to a statement issued by the White House late Saturday. It said that the two leaders “discussed the fact that the Philippines is fighting very hard to rid its country of drugs.”
...
A spokesman for Mr. Duterte, Ernesto Abella, confirmed the White House invitation, saying that Mr. Trump had expressed “his understanding and appreciation of the challenges facing the Philippine president, especially on the matter” of drugs.

Maybe the invite was spurred by Jeff Sessions wanting to ask Duterte for drug war advice?

- As feared, illegal immigrants don't feel safe going to the police to report domestic violence for fear of being deported. Deep down, I imagine most Trump supporters think they deserve this fate for being here illegally.

04-30-2017 , 08:59 PM

#4814

samsonh

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It's not surprising there are lots of Trump fans on this board. Anyone who has played live poker in the past few years in the Midwest gets that there are tons of angry uneducated older white ken out there.

It's just depressing there are so many.

05-01-2017 , 09:59 AM

#4815

mongidig

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Quote:

Originally Posted by batair

White supremacists kill way more then ISIS in the US. Its not even close.

Black people and Mexican people kill more people than ISIS too. You fail to understand a concept known as context.

05-01-2017 , 10:03 AM

#4816

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mongidig

Black people and Mexican people kill more people than ISIS too. You fail to understand a concept known as context.

Haha. You jump the conversation from protesters to Isis and now you have a problem with comparing it to white supremacist groups.

05-01-2017 , 10:07 AM

#4817

mongidig

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Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

Nazis and white nationalists just out in the open at Trump rallies now.

https://twitter.com/Olivianuzzi/stat...55688779112449

Keystone United
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h...eystone-united

Since 2001 this group has beat up one black guy and called a few others names.

They have had more attacks on their own people.

Scary....NOT!

05-01-2017 , 11:35 AM

#4818

batair

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mongidig

Black people and Mexican people kill more people than ISIS too. You fail to understand a concept known as context.

White supremacists are a real threat in the US. You fail at showing they are not a threat. In fact your apologetics for them shows you are one to.

05-01-2017 , 11:45 AM

#4819

goofyballer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mongidig

Now would you like to tell us about the black hate crimes toward whites?

White gunman attacks UC San Diego pool party, shooting 8 black and Hispanic victims

It's amazing how reality has the funniest way of clowning all over your awful posts

05-01-2017 , 11:54 AM

#4820

microbet

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wil,

Would you like to offer your congratulations to Erdogan yet?

05-01-2017 , 11:55 AM

#4821

goofyballer

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I thought wil must have stopped reading this thread given how fast he disappeared after the congrats call!

05-01-2017 , 12:18 PM

#4822

wil318466

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

wil,

Would you like to offer your congratulations to Erdogan yet?

Erdogan shows his true colors. He's a dirtbag, and turkey is a dump.

Let the EU collapse. It's been destined to anyways. There isn't one example of a successful Muslim country on the planet. It should tell you something.

05-01-2017 , 12:19 PM

#4823

The REAL Trolly

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What should it tell us?

05-01-2017 , 12:21 PM

#4824

batair

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Muslims are a real threat in the US? Even though they kill and attack less often then white supremacists and right wing extremists who are not a threat.