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04-27-2017 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
You don't think it is funny that a semi-respected new sources thought trump was such a dog?



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No, not particularly. Read the date on the article.
04-27-2017 , 02:08 AM
Trump was a dog, mickey, are you posting on a poker forum without even knowing what the word means? lol
04-27-2017 , 08:26 AM
Everyone knew he was a dog but it took either a moron or a liar trying to make trump look bad to paint his odds in that kind of light.
04-27-2017 , 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
I know goofy and bert (& a few other liberals) love posting washington posts articles ITT. We are almost to the point that I can say there hasn't been a WaPo article written that I haven't seen in the past 3 months and I think we are past the point where the mods need to ask these two if they work for WaPo and are spamming that trash to increase views.

Either way, I wanted to post an article from WaPo that you all may find interesting.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.6d0fb9923837

Spoiler:
LOL washinton post
I've been monitoring this as well. I think the MODs should look into this. The spamming by Goofy and Einbert is not normal.
04-27-2017 , 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
I've been monitoring this as well. I think the MODs should look into this. The spamming by Goofy and Einbert is not normal.
goofy and einbert are doing well to bring relevant news and knowledge. I think their content is beneficial.

why do you have an adverse reaction to news and facts?
04-27-2017 , 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
goofy and einbert are doing well to bring relevant news and knowledge. I think their content is beneficial.

why do you have an adverse reaction to news and facts?
That's because you're one of them. They have no objectivity, They post fake news and half truths. They create hatred amongst their ilk and amongst their opposition. Micky has done a great job of exposing this.
04-27-2017 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
goofy and einbert are doing well to bring relevant news and knowledge. I think their content is beneficial.

why do you have an adverse reaction to news and facts?
While a good chunk of what they post is garbage, you are right that a lot of it is relevant news. By the way, I hesitated even bringing goofy into this because bert is 100x worse than goofy.

It isn't like we don't want news and facts posted ITT. We just want to talk about those news and facts before we move on to more news because bert posted another article. There have been a few times bert posted 5-10 news stories in a day without ever saying anything about them, why he posted them and not giving anyone else ITT time to discuss them because he posts another article/tweet that is unrelated. I, like many others come here to discuss Trump related maters. I'm not here to have someone search the internet for articles to regurgitate them here and use this as some kind of news feed.

If there was a rule that limited the number of totally unrelated articles/tweets a day one could post in a thread without discussing them this would be a better place. Even if that number was as high as 3 I think it would give bert enough to post without totally driving people crazy. Also, bert would be able to post his 3 random articles in this thread and every other thread on 2+2 so his random article posting is still pretty endless. Plus if he gets itchy to post another random tweet/article all he has to do to post a 4th is discuss the 4th one he posts or discuss one of the prior 3 before posting #4.

Last edited by bahbahmickey; 04-27-2017 at 10:03 AM.
04-27-2017 , 10:20 AM
**** your tax cuts Paul Ryan.


https://twitter.com/conradhackett/st...28690954838016
04-27-2017 , 10:29 AM
I think I would vote Trump at this point just to spite Einbert
04-27-2017 , 10:41 AM
The U.S. tortures a person to death under the care of Milwaukee Sheriff David Clarke:

Prosecutor: Sheriff Clarke’s Jail Shut Off Water Before Inmate’s Death
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/...source=copyurl
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Milwaukee County Jail staff cut off water access to an inmate seven days before he died of dehydration, prosecutors said Monday. Terrill Thomas, who died in jail a year ago, was too mentally unstable to ask for assistance as he died, the prosecutors further alleged. Surveillance video shows a corrections officer turning off the flow of water to Thomas’s solitary confinement cell several days before he died. According to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, “Prosecutors said jail staff made several decisions relating to Thomas that run contrary to standard operating procedures at the jail. A six-person jury seated Monday morning will hear testimony and issue a verdict on whether those decisions warrant a filing of criminal charges in the case. Prosecutors are not required to follow the jury's verdict. They have not said who is under consideration for possible criminal charges.” The jail is run by Sheriff David A. Clarke, best known for his inflammatory rhetoric, vociferous Trump support, and frequent Fox News appearances.
04-27-2017 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by StevenPoke
I think I would vote Trump at this point just to spite Einbert
This is how Trump won in the first place.
04-27-2017 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
This is how Trump won in the first place.
Maybe but that tells more about trump voters lack integrity then anything. If it makes liberals mad, good enough.
04-27-2017 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
It isn't like we don't want news and facts posted ITT. We just want to talk about those news and facts before we move on to more news
lol, this is insanely rich. This thread has ebbs and flows and there are times it goes a full day with like 3 posts because none of you want to say **** about the latest news that was posted. juan literally posted the other day that maybe sometimes people don't respond to posts because they agree with them!

Yet here's mickey, all "yeah we really want to slow down and discuss everything but there's just too much". juan maybe you can get together with your teammate here and get your stories straight? Thanks!

Last edited by goofyballer; 04-27-2017 at 12:46 PM.
04-27-2017 , 05:19 PM
Food industry lobbies Trump to reverse rules on disclosing calories and sugars. Money quote:

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The petition continued: “Petitioners believe the Final Rule falls squarely within the category of regulations disfavored by the administration — those that are unduly burdensome and costly, and do not provide commensurate benefits.
USA#1 is, from my brief perusal, the most obese country in the developed world, which certainly affects things like healthcare costs pretty bigly. I wonder how much of that obesity is because food companies think telling consumers how many calories are in their food is not a "commensurate benefit"?

Will be interesting to see if the Trump administration agrees with the industry's argument. So far, all signs point to "probably":

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A number of industry groups are anticipating that the FDA will become more business-friendly under the new secretary of Health Human Services, Tom Price. Price, a former congressman from Georgia, voted in favor of the Common Sense Nutrition Disclosure Act in 2016 — an industry-backed measure designed to undercut the menu-labeling rule.
04-27-2017 , 05:30 PM
Meanwhile, on taxes, Trump's tax plan is projected to add between $3 trillion to $7 trillion to the national debt over the next ten years (the entirety of the national debt at the moment is $20T, so that's not an insignificant change), though we'll know more when there are more concrete details of his plan available as the document released this week was basically a collection of bullet points. Republicans, who iirc spent the last eight years making very loud noises about the importance of deficits/debt, seem to have suddenly become very quiet on the issue.
04-28-2017 , 01:18 AM
04-28-2017 , 01:21 AM
After Trump's sanctuary city order is blocked, New York City Council holds hearings for nine bills intended to bolster its sanctuary policies. It's good to see local jurisdictions standing up to the unconstitutional demands of the Trump administration.
04-28-2017 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by batair
Maybe but that tells more about trump voters lack integrity then anything. If it makes liberals mad, good enough.
I didn't like either candidate. I think leftists are repulsive. I voted for Trump to make them suffer.

I still get a boner thinking about the look on their faces when they realized he was gonna win.

I'm getting a semi right now thinking about how sad you people still are
04-28-2017 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Meanwhile, on taxes, Trump's tax plan is projected to add between $3 trillion to $7 trillion to the national debt over the next ten years (the entirety of the national debt at the moment is $20T, so that's not an insignificant change), though we'll know more when there are more concrete details of his plan available as the document released this week was basically a collection of bullet points. Republicans, who iirc spent the last eight years making very loud noises about the importance of deficits/debt, seem to have suddenly become very quiet on the issue.
Wasn't it 2 days ago someone ITT was bitching about how Trump hasn't released the amount of income that pushes a tax payer into the next tax bracket? How can anyone predict if the gov't will collect more or less tax money w/o these numbers? From my understanding he also hasn't said which deductions are going away which makes anyone throwing out numbers of how the debt will increase/decrease look very stupid. It seems like a lot of these studies are very quick to assume tax cuts bring in less money and tax increases bring in more money - which of course is oversimplified and incorrect.

Last edited by bahbahmickey; 04-28-2017 at 10:50 AM.
04-28-2017 , 12:25 PM
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/trum...oreign-leaders

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On critical issues from Obamacare repeal to NAFTA renegotiation, an identifiable pattern has emerged. Trump makes an outlandish ask late in the negotiating process; White House advisers and lawmakers struggling to adjust to this new reality release a wave of contradictory statements on where the administration stands; and, ultimately, the President backs down, issuing a vague promise to circle back to the issue or claiming he never intended to do what he initially said he wanted to do, anyway.
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These last-minute caves are undermining not only his own dealmaker reputation as a dealmaker, but the limited political capital a president has to sway resistant lawmakers or rally the American public behind a piece of legislation. Trump’s all-bark, no-bite presidency is weakening the office itself.
If Trump has trouble negotiating with his own party in his own government, there's not much hope for his negotiations on an international scale.
04-28-2017 , 01:13 PM
Please don't make content threads it about how people post or complain about it here.

Re' links/tweets etc: If it's too much to ignore any that you think are excessive/irrelevant then you can report them.
04-28-2017 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Please don't make content threads it about how people post or complain about it here.
If that's the part that so offends you, could you maybe be less of a dip**** and edit out the offending part rather than deleting an entire post that contained content relevant to this thread? Thanks buddy!
04-28-2017 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
If that's the part that so offends you, could you maybe be less of a dip**** and edit out the offending part rather than deleting an entire post that contained content relevant to this thread? Thanks buddy!
Nothing offended me and our general approach is to delete rather than edit. I sometimes edit for continuity or if there's something I want to respond to but if you break the rules then you cannot rely on the mods making the effort to edit your posts.
04-28-2017 , 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Wasn't it 2 days ago someone ITT was bitching about how Trump hasn't released the amount of income that pushes a tax payer into the next tax bracket? How can anyone predict if the gov't will collect more or less tax money w/o these numbers?
Very good question! I think that's why there's such a large amount of uncertainty (i.e. "between $3T and $7T", which is a pretty wide gulf), but even the administration knows they'll collect less tax money (see Mnuchin saying recently-ish, I think I posted a link, that the tax cut would be paid for by the magic growth fairy when the economy soars because we gave rich people more money).

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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
From my understanding he also hasn't said which deductions are going away which makes anyone throwing out numbers of how the debt will increase/decrease look very stupid.
This is also a good point, and it doesn't help when even Sean Spicer doesn't seem to know what deductions are going away: Spicer briefly throws the world into a panic when he says 401k deduction will be removed

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"The current plan right now both protects charitable giving and mortgage interest and that's it," said Spicer, when asked specifically about tax treatment of 401ks.
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It was only a temporary fire alarm, however. The White House quickly clarified that Spicer was referring only to deductions, not exclusions from taxable income. They don't have any intention to take away tax preference for such retirement accounts.
From Spicer's quote (which references languages in Trump's plan I believe), it seems like the deductions that are going away are "most of them".
04-28-2017 , 02:38 PM
U.S. economy growth in Q1 2017 is the lowest in three years

I thought Trump was gonna jumpstart everything (hell, reading mongidig posts ITT, I thought he already had)? Yikes!

      
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