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04-18-2017 , 02:08 PM
USS Carl Vinson wasn't sailing towards North Korea as White House reported

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As worries deepened last week about whether North Korea would conduct a missile test, the White House declared that ordering an American aircraft carrier into the Sea of Japan would send a powerful deterrent signal and give President Trump more options in responding to the North’s provocative behavior.

The problem was, the carrier, the Carl Vinson, and the four other warships in its strike force were at that very moment sailing in the opposite direction, to take part in joint exercises with the Australian Navy in the Indian Ocean, 3,500 miles southwest of the Korean Peninsula.
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By the time the White House was asked about the Carl Vinson on April 11, its imminent arrival had been emblazoned on front pages across East Asia, fanning fears that Mr. Trump was considering a pre-emptive military strike on North Korea.
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The saga of the wayward carrier might never have come to light, had the Navy not posted a photograph on Monday of the Carl Vinson sailing through the Sunda Strait, which separates the Indonesian islands of Java and Sumatra. The picture was taken on Saturday, four days after the White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, described its mission in the Sea of Japan.
lol these chuckle****s have no clue what they're doing
04-18-2017 , 02:22 PM
WaPo's article about Trump calling Erdogan to congratulate him (WTF??????????????) has this nice blurb:

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Trump’s comments differed in tone from those of the State Department, which urged Turkey to respect the basic rights of its citizens and noted the election irregularities witnessed by monitors with the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. The United States is a member of the OSCE.

“We look to the government of Turkey to protect the fundamental rights and freedoms of all its citizens,” said the department’s acting spokesman, Mark Toner, noting the objections of the Turkish opposition and the monitors.

“The United States remains committed to strengthening our bilateral relationship,” he added. “The United States continues to support Turkey’s democratic development, to which commitment to the rule of law and a diverse and free media remain essential.”
While the rest of the government functioned properly for once, lol the president called this dictator to congratulate him. Even wil knows how stupid that was for him to do. What a clown.
04-18-2017 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
White nationalists being sued for violence at Louisville rally agree with plaintiff: Trump provoked them

They have a nice picture of the latter guy posing with t-shirts talking about "the globalist problem". What a nice and totally atypical Trump supporter!
Of all the violent protests in the past year and a half you choose to post about one where a couple protesters were pushed fairly gently (compared to other protests we've seen)? If these are the worst of the Trump fans I wish all liberals were more like them. At least they weren't destroying corporate or private property, destroying police cars or punching/kicking people like we have seen from a lot of liberal protesters recently.

GoaTRUMP truly has made protesting great again by downgrade protester actions from violent attacking people and destroying property to gently pushing people.
04-18-2017 , 03:13 PM
The article you posted was about a rally on March 1st where the person bumping/pushing a protester is using GOATrump as a escapeGOAT in a lawsuit. The newest picture you posted was of a completely different incident on March 19th. Is the person getting punched in your newest picture also suing Trump or is the puncher suing Trump - or why are you trying to connect dots that shouldn't be connected?
04-18-2017 , 03:23 PM
mickey really wants us to know that this white nationalist accused of assault wasn't that bad.
04-18-2017 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
The article you posted was about a rally on March 1st where the person bumping/pushing a protester is using GOATrump as a escapeGOAT in a lawsuit. The newest picture you posted was of a completely different incident on March 19th. Is the person getting punched in your newest picture also suing Trump or is the puncher suing Trump - or why are you trying to connect dots that shouldn't be connected?
Uhhh because you're the person who made this blatantly wrong and stupid post, to the extent one can even translate it into readable English:

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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
GoaTRUMP truly has made protesting great again by downgrade protester actions from violent attacking people and destroying property to gently pushing people.
Trump is responsible for protesters getting violently attacked as well, as I demonstrated.
04-18-2017 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
The article you posted was about a rally on March 1st where the person bumping/pushing a protester is using GOATrump as a escapeGOAT in a lawsuit. The newest picture you posted was of a completely different incident on March 19th. Is the person getting punched in your newest picture also suing Trump or is the puncher suing Trump - or why are you trying to connect dots that shouldn't be connected?
Thanks for establishing the pattern of violence. Now we can establish that there was a clear instruction of violence from Trump to his supporters:

All the times Trump has called for violence at his rallies
http://mashable.com/2016/03/12/trump.../#gQ7yv5mYYiqp
04-18-2017 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
mickey really wants us to know that this white nationalist accused of assault wasn't that bad.
I wonder why most people get sick of liberals name calling.
04-18-2017 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Uhhh because you're the person who made this blatantly wrong and stupid post, to the extent one can even translate it into readable English:

Trump is responsible for protesters getting violently attacked as well, as I demonstrated.
Humm... what is worse in your alls mind?

Hillary saying nothing about violence but liberals blocking traffic, punching people, kicking people, attacking people, destroying police cars, talking about killing the police, and destroying private property

or

GOATrump saying to get protesters out of his rally (to my knowledge he didn't say anything about the protesters outside his rallys - which is where most conservatives go when protesting hillary) and a couple protesters pushing a couple of people who refuse to leave?

Again this goes back to your post that somehow those morons who did the pushing blaming trump for their actions or the ones getting pushed are blaming trump.



bert, for all the times trump talks about violence against protesters it is odd that you don't hear more about conservatives getting violent. I would think we'd start hearing about them getting more violent than liberals.

Also, I don't recall every seeing one candidate getting even 1/20th of the protesters in his/her rally as trump has gotten so if we look at it like that we have never seen a politician handle these kind of rude and uncalled for protests with such grace or more elegantly and beautifully than TRUMP - I have no reason to believe a future politician will handle it any better either.

Last edited by bahbahmickey; 04-18-2017 at 05:40 PM.
04-18-2017 , 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bahbahmickey
Humm... what is worse in your alls mind?
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04-18-2017 , 05:49 PM
Here's Trump calling for his supporters to commit violence outside of the rallies:
04-18-2017 , 05:52 PM
Bert or goof, you need to address my point that there is no evidence that trump's supporters are more violent than liberals or non-trump supporters. I've never even heard an argument that they are as violent as liberals so I am really on the edge of my seat here.
04-18-2017 , 05:53 PM
Far Right Descends On Berkeley For 'Free Speech' And Planned Violence
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...anned-violence
04-18-2017 , 05:56 PM
mickey - it sounds from your latest barely-intelligible wordbomb that we agree Trump is worse than Hillary at inciting violence rallies, as even you acknowledge Hillary engages in no such thing? I don't think I "need to" do anything.
04-18-2017 , 05:57 PM

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/853429695085522944

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/853428990970929152

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/853426266615287808
04-18-2017 , 06:01 PM
Leave it to a Trump supporter to try to take something as despicable as a politician inciting violence against their opposition and try to normalize and play whataboutism with that fascist bull****.
04-18-2017 , 06:02 PM
What the ****, bert? I usually ignore your twitter barrages, but I bit this time.

First, are you actually saying that the black shirted and masked rioter/criminals at Berkeley are Trump supporters? Second, if so, you're supporting this with what, random twitter accounts?

Last edited by pokerodox; 04-18-2017 at 06:24 PM.
04-18-2017 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Far Right Descends On Berkeley For 'Free Speech' And Planned Violence
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/...anned-violence
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04-18-2017 , 06:33 PM
I read your other article by the southern poverty law center.

Interesting how they say right wing did this, right wing did that. Sounds like a bunch of boneheads. But the article doesn't talk about what the left-fascists did there that day. Obviously, severely biased reporting.

I also see you did not answer my question about the black shirted and masked criminals in Berkeley - to which these right wing protestors are reacting.
04-18-2017 , 06:39 PM
There's going to be plenty of boneheads on both sides when things are this divisive.

But trump has encouraged it which is appalling. Bad enough when it's some ordinary person condoning or encouraging violence.
04-18-2017 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
But trump has encouraged it which is appalling.
I agree. Those were disgusting comments he made during the campaign.
04-18-2017 , 06:55 PM
This is an old school fascist tactic. They provoke a conflict, start a fight, turn a peaceful protest into a "riot" and it really helps them win the media battle. They're doing this systematically and intentionally, it should be obvious to all. Those white supremacists (alt-right) people came from out of state to provoke a violent conflict. If some people stand up against them, that's self-defense.

I'm very partisan in the fascist versus anti-fascist debate. We didn't beat the Nazis by holding Lincoln-Douglas debates on the issue of Aryan superiority.
04-18-2017 , 06:58 PM
What about the fascist **** pulled by the left in Berkeley in, what was it, February?
04-18-2017 , 06:58 PM
Do you believe the people of Berkeley don't have the right to defend themselves against these white supremacists who are trying to start trouble from out-of-state? They should just sit there and take the beating because that's what liberals and hippies do? That's not what liberals are going to do from now on, I can tell you that.

      
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