Which makes it even more frustrating that democrats are so bad at winning.

If today was a bad day on the healthcare front, at least Trump got to play with trucks like a big boy

LAPD chief says reports of sexual assault and domestic violence are way down this year from Latinos (and only Latinos), due to fear of deportation if they report crimes to the police. Totally healthy society!

Can someone define leftist to me?

It seems to be only said by sex deprived white guys who like to quote the federalist papers.

I heard a story that when Trump won the election, thousands of illegal immigrants would have heart attacks. When they would call 911, the paramedics coming would look like Nazis, trying to take the illegals to concentration camp.

I had a similar episode. I had a cognitive dissonance episode, during which I think I realised that Trump is bad. My mind went from 100% Trump supporter to 100% Trump hater. I was in Vegas. My heart was racing so I called the ambulance. The paramedics looked like Nazis to me cos I thought Trump is Hitler. I went to the hospital, but I quickly came back to my house cos I figured the heart was just going so fast cos of the emotional stress. I flew back into my home country. I was staying legally in the U.S.; but I didn't wanna stay in the country anymore that's run by an authoritarian fascist.

This is just my take. I could be imagining some stuff too. I just hope everything's gonna be okay for everyone in the world.

Are we supposed to be tired of winning yet?

"Tired of winning" could be code for "tired of losing". He did this tens of times at his rallies due to campaign. It goes that people plead the president "please, we're tired of winning. We win so much we're sick of winning."

And then Trump would reply "No, we'll keep on winning!"



Winning could be code for whining.

This statement is true only if you are using the word "quote" very loosely.

Stealing this from alpha, here's what a joke Trump is:



If you want to say, "but that was 17 years ago", he said the same **** during the campaign:

September 2015 60 Minutes interview: "I am going to take care of everybody. I don't care if it costs me votes or not."

And he kept promising it after the campaign was over, after the election:

January 15, 2017: Trump says he's nearing completion of an Obamacare replacement plan with a goal of "insurance for everybody"

And yet, here he is on the eve of the rescheduled healthcare vote, leaning on House members to pass the bill that will take healthcare away from...20 million people? I think CBO numbers on the amended bill were even worse than the original version in terms of how many people will lose healthcare.

This battle here was between the populism that Trump rode to power and standard GOP big business interests, and if you look at the piece of **** bill that Trump is now telling the House to pass, it's clear that the populist side got absolutely destroyed in this fight because the leader of their movement is an utterly incompetent buffoon who is totally incapable of effecting the change they voted for.

Anyone who voted for Donald Trump because they thought he would stand up for the little man should look very carefully at what's transpired in this healthcare process, because it should make them very, very worried about his ability to accomplish anything he said he would do that the Paul Ryan wing of the party doesn't approve of. He rolled over on this fight like a little ***** and there's no reason to think the same thing won't happen again and again.

Goofy, I actually agree with you on this. The healthcare bill could prove to be a disaster for the Trump admin. The first misstep that may cost him.

Only time will tell. It's not as simple as publicisizing the good parts of the bill. The liberal media will pick apart the negatives and expose it. This will be the Dems first legitimate victory against the Trump admin.

wat

In Trump's defense, he probably things the AHCA does everything he promised. Any reports to the contrary are fake news.

I asked if there was one example of a paper where the editorial board and their converge are thought to swing different ways as (incorrectly) suggested the NYT does.

bahbahmickey,

Now you can finally admit that Trump supporters have major racism, sexism, and xenophobia, right? I've shown you piles of direct evidence. This is the issue you wanted to fight about. Can you admit now that you were wrong?

Yes, I will concede there are terrible people, including racist and sexist, that support Trump just like every major candidate the US has ever seen. I don't think goaTRUMP's supporters are significantly worse people than the supporters of other major party politicians.

You can walk through any yuge crowd and find stupid people and edit your video to make them all look stupid so no this isn't "piles of direct evidence" of any significant findings.

trump reducing the crime rate and liberals cry about it tho

They are probably just sick of winning.

Yes, I'm sure there were quite a few young men shouting "f**k that n****r" when Obama's name was mentioned at an HRC rally, we just didn't catch those rascals on camera.

Again, wtf is wrong with your brain?

I'm not so confident that there were a few young men who shouted that about obama at a hillary rally considering obama and hillary are in the same party. Now that doesn't mean goaTRUMP supporters are less tolerant than hillary supporters because of this one example (racism against a politician from a major political party).

Great. Now let's talk about how racism, sexism, and xenophobia aren't just a problem amongst Trump's core fan base. It's also a problem at the top. Steve Bannon works in the White House as Chief Strategist and on the National Security Council. He was editor of Breitbart News before that. Here's some of his hateful work there:


https://twitter.com/truthmashup/stat...55750940717057

bahbahmickey,

Since you say "it happens on both sides!" I'm sure you can point to someone who worked in Obama's White House who was equally as hateful as Steve Bannon. Go ahead, I'll wait.

einbert, I think we need to revisit your post that started this whole argument. If you look back about 200 posts ago ITT (or about 100 of your posts ago) you will see it was about you slandering the supporters of goaTRUMP.

You have since shifted the goal posts 8-10 times, but that is what started this whole mess - not about some guy who was the head of some newspaper that you think he should be held personally responsible for.

Bannon is White House chief strategist. Trump can be held personally responsible for that.

Your point about extrapolation to millions of people is correct. Showing that some are vile doesn't mean that much when talking about large groups. It isn't a PC issue but if it was then it wouldn't be allowed as it's the same fallacy that's used to demonise any group.

So from what I understand...

- Thursday: Trump tells GOP to stop ****ing around and hold a vote on Friday
- Friday morning: Ryan cries to Trump that he doesn't have the votes, Trump says "too ****ing bad, vote on it this afternoon"
- Friday afternoon: Trump tells Ryan to pull the bill

LOL what a dealmaker, just the best deals, great deals for America.

This NYT article shows some honesty from one Republican lawmaker:

From what I read Trump didn't ask Ryan to pull the bill as much as Trump kept telling Ryan to hold the vote and Ryan kept pleading to pull the bill.