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Few, if any, are claiming that people in need of assistance shouldn't be helped. There is a social safety net. People are debating what it should entail.

That's EXACTLY what would happen under RepubliCare. The Medicaid expansion is gutted, people and states have to survive on a limited amount of care, and PEOPLE WILL DIE. RepubliCare takes the social safety net straight away from millions of people who rely on it.

03-16-2017 , 08:07 AM

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I think the more choices you give poor people the more they will screw it up. Services are better than straight money, but it'll probably take years to see the results, then we will see the results and adjust accordingly. I hope.

03-16-2017 , 08:15 AM

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This argument for Iphones shows just how ignorant some of you people are. One of these day's

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03-16-2017 , 08:26 AM

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Interesting. Most Republicans frame their bull**** as "more choices" for those with less opportunity, but you choose to come right out and say it. You want to give them as few choices as possible and basically seal their fate, so I guess you don't even pretend to believe in the possibility of upward social mobility or improving oneself through education and hard work. That's unfortunate.

03-16-2017 , 08:56 AM

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It's pretty obvious what the downside is. Why do you think 401k programs at work are so limited?

Giving me straight Cash right now in my stage of life would be great. Giving me cash 20 years ago would have been a disaster.

03-16-2017 , 08:59 AM

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Few, if any, are claiming that people in need of assistance shouldn't be helped. There is a social safety net. People are debating what it should entail.

What people claim and the legislation that they produce are two different things. Trumpcare will hurt the poorest, sickest Americans while giving Trump and his kids massive tax breaks.

And recall that the major Republican criticism of the ACA wasn't expense, but that people would die--"death panels"--a lie about Obamacare, but absolutely true about Trumpcare.

03-16-2017 , 09:15 AM

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You don't use stereotypes in poker? You think all people just play the same? Do you think your ilk uses stereotypes to describe Trump supporters?

Why would anyone who knows better use an inaccurate, unreliable, unworthy, and incorrect approach towards people anywhere? I can think of a few reasons, like to demonstrate how fallible it is by example.

03-16-2017 , 09:43 AM

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We're not talking about giving people resources in a different way. We're talking about totally taking away resources that people depend on to survive.

https://twitter.com/StephLauren/stat...78674036219905

03-16-2017 , 09:50 AM

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It's pretty obvious what the downside is. Why do you think 401k programs at work are so limited?

you mean like the ones that match your investment, dollar for dollar?

03-16-2017 , 09:53 AM

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:grunchable:

has any rabid con artist Trumplained what changed between decades of "Russia is Mordor" (pre-campaign) to "Russia is the Shire" (campaign-onward)?

Still waiting on that one. From the media and DC pundits as well, for that matter.

03-16-2017 , 10:56 AM

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I heard that trump plans on 'publicly executing Mr. Rogers on Sesame Street while dining on Curious George's brain from his skull; after kicking Sid the Science Kid out of the house for being extra-observant, weird, and artsy looking'.

03-16-2017 , 11:12 AM

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you mean like the ones that match your investment, dollar for dollar?

Yeah, up to 3-6%. They chucked the pensions so 401k took it's place.

No?

03-16-2017 , 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by einbert

We're not talking about giving people resources in a different way. We're talking about totally taking away resources that people depend on to survive.

https://twitter.com/StephLauren/stat...78674036219905

Lol. Arguing anything is a waste of time. If anything is ever changed everyone is going to die.

Amazing.

03-16-2017 , 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie

All good poker players use stereotypes. If a player you have never played with before sits down all you have at the moment to make your decisions is using stereotypes. I have a feeling you know it teh Wookie but to agree with me would go against your narrative. I'd love to give examples, but there are too many highly sensitive fragile people here to be able to discuss common sense. I feel I'm walking on egg shells on this forum.

03-16-2017 , 12:24 PM

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I can't afford an Iphone.

03-16-2017 , 12:27 PM

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Lol. Arguing anything is a waste of time. If anything is ever changed everyone is going to die.

Amazing.

The world holds its breath waiting for the moment that definitely liberal, definitely Hilary voting Wil will ever oppose a conservative policy.

03-16-2017 , 01:05 PM

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Losing weight is similar to budgeting for expenses. Both are difficult because you have to go without and make sacrifices to achieve goals.

No wonder we live in a country full of broke fatties.

03-16-2017 , 01:12 PM

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Most people see the flaws in proposed bill. Here's a grand idea, how about both sides working together to find solutions to these problems instead acting like trump did during the debates. Wrong, wrong, wrong doesn't seem to be going anywhere.

Or is the left content to mimic what the right pulled on Obama via shut downs and filibusters. Yeah, yeah, the left isn't doing that now but they was as well be.

03-16-2017 , 01:39 PM

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Go ahead and negotiate with bigots and supremacists, and please let us know how that works out.

03-16-2017 , 01:43 PM

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How Trump's own voters will get crushed under his budget plan:

https://twitter.com/YAppelbaum/statu...13839635386369

03-16-2017 , 01:44 PM

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There is nothing dumb about prioritizing what is important. Almost everyone has limited resources except for the very top earners. If you need to, you bring lunch to work to save money, or take public transportation to save parking, or buy clothes from thrift stores if you have to. That's the point. Most of us have experienced times in our lives where we have to prioritize certain things over others. Buying expensive gadgets is a waste of precious resources, especially the poorer you are. The arguments of needing a car and an expensive smartphone to get a lie level job is even more laughable. Sure, it's nice, but to argue it's absolutely necessary is lol. I know people who've never owned a car and somehow managed to keep a job their entire lives. It's not magic.

Still mischaracterizing my position i see. Guess its easier for you to argue against self invented lies then be honest.

03-16-2017 , 01:49 PM

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Still mischaracterizing my position i see. Guess its easier for you to argue against self invented lies then be honest.

Fascists aren't trying to win the debate. They actually know that all their talking points are bull****, it's really just justification for the ends they want to enact on the population. Thus the constant stream of false propaganda from them, even though they really know it's false.

https://twitter.com/jonwrongly/statu...99817038655496

03-16-2017 , 01:56 PM

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Phenomenal video example of "when Republicans get too honest":

03-16-2017 , 02:03 PM

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I asked some other people about the car question. So far everyone i talked to have had an interview where it was asked. Not every job. Seems pretty common though. City folk with your good public transportation....take the bus!!

03-16-2017 , 02:10 PM

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Today in healthcare news: Trump tries to get his supporters behind Ryancare bill by bragging about not working with Democrats...

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“We’re going to all get together, we’re going to get something done,” Mr. Trump said. “Remember this: If we didn’t do it the way we’re doing it, we’d need 60 votes, so we’d have to get the Democrats involved. So we’re doing it a different way, a complex way.”

“It’s going to be fine,” Mr. Trump added.

...all while Paul Ryan acknowledges that the bill won't even pass without changes:

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House Speaker Paul D. Ryan said Wednesday that his health-care proposal must change to pass the House, marking a significant retreat from his earlier position that the carefully crafted legislation would fail if substantially altered.

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