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And to pre-empt the "WAHHHHHH CBO SO BIASED/WRONG", here is what Donald Trump thinks about the group (its head was appointed by a Republican, btw)

More on this - Feb 27, 2015 - Rep. Tom Price (now Sec. of HHS) applauds appointment of Keith Hall as CBO director

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House Budget Committee Chairman Tom Price, M.D. (GA-06) issued the following statement today after Dr. Keith Hall was appointed to serve as the next Director of the Congressional Budget Office (CBO):

“Keith Hall will bring an impressive level of economic expertise and experience to the Congressional Budget Office. Throughout his career, he has served in both the public and private sector, under presidents of both parties, and in roles that make him well-suited to lead the CBO. In particular, during his time at the U.S. International Trade Commission, Dr. Hall has worked on providing Congress with non-partisan economic analyses – a role similar to the responsibilities he will now assume as CBO director. His vast understanding of economic and labor market policy will be invaluable to the work of CBO and the important roll it will continue to play as Congress seeks to enact policies that support a healthy and growing economy.”

03-13-2017 , 05:37 PM

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03-13-2017 , 05:48 PM

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So the Obamacare replacement legislation was passed and TRUMP signed it today? I didnt think Ryan's Bill had a ghost of a chance of getting through the Senate. I can't believe I missed that in the news. Do you have link that shows TRUMP signed it with a picture?

03-13-2017 , 05:55 PM

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He said he supports it and hopes it passes. He even sent Pence to Kentucky to lobby for it. But I mean how willfully stupid are you going to be? You know your defense is simply a non sequitur. I feel like Trump people aren't even trying to debate any more. I can understand that, since your positions are all indefensible.

03-13-2017 , 05:57 PM

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So the Obamacare replacement legislation was passed and TRUMP signed it today?

Why are you talking to einbert about claims he didn't make? Terrible strawman and a terrible post.

03-13-2017 , 06:18 PM

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Trump supports the bill. Are you trying to make the argument he doesn't support it? That he won't sign it? Please point me to any article where Trump has said he won't sign this bill.

03-13-2017 , 06:33 PM

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As Trump claims economy is "Great Again", little has changed for his supporters

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Indeed, the jobs report that Trump now touts as proof of renaissance shows the economy largely on the same path it was before he took office.

Wages continue to inch up, job growth remains on a steady upward track and those driven out of the work force during the Great Recession continue to slowly rejoin the ranks of the employed. And the people who Trump described as being left behind by the economy two months ago – that disconnected cohort of the white working class who buoyed the president into office – are still largely in the same position.

03-13-2017 , 06:41 PM

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In Jason Chaffetz's home district, residents balk at living without a phone

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Here in Mr. Chaffetz’s solidly Republican district, one of those uninsured Americans watched the viral CNN interview on — what else? — her cellphone. Not a new iPhone, though, but a Samsung with a cracked screen, one that Shari Hunter and her husband, Anthony, bought with their tax refunds two years ago.

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Here in the heavily Mormon cities that run along the snow-glazed Wasatch Range, several of Mr. Chaffetz’s uninsured constituents said that, of course, they would love to be rid of the cellphone bills that cost their families $30, $50, $100 every month. But they said the savings would hardly be enough to afford monthly health plans for their families.

And how would they get by without their phones?

“A cellphone is a lifeline,” said Myla Dutton, executive director of Community Action Provo, a food bank and social-service nonprofit.

Jose Valdivia, 61, said he wouldn’t be able to quickly look up the latest engine modifications when he was repairing sport-utility vehicles at the mechanic’s shop where he works. His wife said they wouldn’t be able to send photos to relatives in Mexico City.

The couple spoke as they waited for an appointment at a free health clinic run by volunteer nurses and doctors two nights a week in Provo. Not surprisingly, smartphones abounded in the waiting room. People texted about dinner, called relatives with updates, held their children’s attention with a game.

Without her phone, Joana Delacruz, 45, said, she wouldn’t be able to see job postings from nursing employers, or check whether she should bring home some food for her 18-year-old son after finishing her 3-11 p.m. shifts managing a McDonald’s in Provo.

03-13-2017 , 10:30 PM

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Why are you talking to einbert about claims he didn't make? Terrible strawman and a terrible post.

LOL

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Trump supports the bill. Are you trying to make the argument he doesn't support it? That he won't sign it? Please point me to any article where Trump has said he won't sign this bill.

Has Medicare been cut? Nope

Has Social Security been cut? Nope

Has Medicaid been cut? Nope.

Until any of these actually happen he hasn't lied about this alleged promise.

About this CBO report, I seem to remember posting a link to a CBO report on how raising the minimum wage would cost 500,000 jobs. I also remember some push back that the CBO was wrong in its estimates by some posters. Now with this CBO report on Ryan's bill it seems to be that the CBO report should be taken at face value. Should we be as skeptical of this CBO report on Ryan's bill as we are about the CBO report on increasing the minimum wage?

Personally, I don't think Ryan's Bill has any chance at all to get through Congress. I'm pretty sure the Republicans are positioning themselves to have the Democrats defend the continuation of Obamacare as is. The Republicans will claim they have proposed improvements but the Democrats have rejected every one and are entrenched in continuing Obamacare as is. The Democrats have lost a lot of ground since they passed Obamacare. There are people who are claiming Obamacare is actually popular. It might be but it doesn't seem like it is.

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03-13-2017 , 10:32 PM

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Trump is advocating for the bill that cuts Medicaid. Only a total dipshit would fail to see the problem with that when comparing with earlier statements.

I assume, of course, you do see the problem and are thus not the dipshit described in this post, yes? Otherwise I would hate to be guilty of a personal attack.

03-13-2017 , 10:47 PM

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In Jason Chaffetz's home district, residents balk at living without a phone

God forbid people don't have their Iphones. How spoiled has this country become. Absolutely discusting!

03-13-2017 , 10:48 PM

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Guaranteed mongo is an old who doesn't understand the importance of smartphones in today's world.

03-13-2017 , 10:52 PM

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give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime

03-13-2017 , 10:54 PM

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Me being wet behind the ears developed a proposal to increase our base pay structure well above minimum wage. My belief is it would create more loyal employees who didn't quit at the drop of the hate because minimum wage jobs become interchangeable to low end workers. Beyond that we appealed to a higher level of applicant besides the swarms of minimum wage applicants. .

I believe Henry Ford thought of that before you did. But what of those "lower level" of applicant, especially if the minimum wage is raised too high?

(My answer is a negative income tax of something like half of everything you fall short of 50K a year and no minimum wage at all.)

03-13-2017 , 10:58 PM

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Guaranteed mongo is an old who doesn't understand the importance of smartphones in today's world.

I have a smart phone because I like it's camera and more importantly I can afford it. I could easily survive without it. This is why I have no compassion for the entitlement generation.

03-13-2017 , 11:08 PM

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@Einbert

As a democrat do you have any regrets about the party nominating Hillary Clinton or about its platform? You know the democrats were just defeated by an insane idiot, right? What does that make them/you?

Your comments in the other thread also suggest a lack of introspection. Your party barely rises to the level of a joke, so it might not be the best time to be so self righteous. Why don't you go think about a way to beat Trump other than pointlessly denigrating him?

03-13-2017 , 11:11 PM

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03-13-2017 , 11:11 PM

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give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime

Is Trump going to give the poor masses a masterclass on how to exploit bankruptcy laws and pay no taxes?

03-13-2017 , 11:13 PM

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03-13-2017 , 11:15 PM

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Not having a cell phone would be a pretty big strike against someone if I were thinking of hiring them.

03-13-2017 , 11:18 PM

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Not having a cell phone would be a pretty big strike against someone if I were thinking of hiring them.

Does it have to be an Iphone?

03-13-2017 , 11:22 PM

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I have a smart phone because I like it's camera and more importantly I can afford it. I could easily survive without it. This is why I have no compassion for the entitlement generation.

It would have taken fewer words to just say I was right.

03-13-2017 , 11:23 PM

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The people who will lose coverage weren't going to use it anyway unless there was a catastrophic emergency. They will just go to the ER like they always did before. They're better off this way.

Did I mention the cost of healthcare will be reduced for everyone eventually.

Sounds good to me.

03-13-2017 , 11:24 PM

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Does it have to be an Iphone?

No one said it had to be. You invented the idea that poor people HAVE to have the newest $700 iPhone in your head. Old smartphones are very cheap and are not the reason someone doesn't have healthcare.