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03-05-2017 , 06:39 PM
Goofyballer,

% chance a tape exists of Trump being pissed on by Russian hookers?
03-05-2017 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Wil, I was the one who supplied those numbers. I first posted the number of visa applicants, the number accepted, then said "a ton of people don't want to live in the USA." This was in opposition to people saying 'everyone in the world would want to live in the USA (Mong)" or "why don't we let 300m people in?" Obviously there are a ton of people who don't want to live in the USA. This is just like, common sense. Even if this statement is taken in *literal terms* it just means ~2000 people don't want to live in the USA. Hard to imagine you think this is false!

Also, you realize that not all the people who are issued Visas stay and become citizens, correct? I still don't think you get the difference between citizenship and visas which is so, so simple.
#1, mong made his statement after your claim. #2, you specifically used the word "live". Not visit, not work, but "live". Residence means live in this regard. America grants about a million people residency a year, the highest in the world.

No one who speaks English could believe you aren't lying here. Pure comedy.

Keep trying, champ. Keep talking in circles.
03-05-2017 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
Goofyballer,

% chance a tape exists of Trump being pissed on by Russian hookers?
The claim was just that he had them piss on the bed, no?
03-05-2017 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Uh, no, you said he's being subjected to fake news almost non-stop 24/7 right now and that's why he fires back with his dumb tweets about wiretapping. This is an article from nearly a month ago.

Cite the fake news being reported on Trump right now or stfu with this nonsense claim.
LOL. What?

Do you think it suddenly stopped one month ago?

Gtfo with that. LMAO
03-05-2017 , 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
#1, mong made his statement after your claim. #2, you specifically used the word "live". Not visit, not work, but "live". Residence means live in this regard. America grants about a million people residency a year, the highest in the world.

No one who speaks English could believe you aren't lying here. Pure comedy.

Keep trying, champ. Keep talking in circles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...migration_rate
03-05-2017 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
The claim was just that he had them piss on the bed, no?
Sure whatever specifics you want to fantasize about, what % do you assign to there being a Russian Trump pee tape?
03-05-2017 , 06:44 PM
30%
03-05-2017 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
Sure whatever specifics you want to fantasize about, what % do you assign to there being a Russian Trump pee tape?
I think it's 100% they bugged whatever room that Trump stayed at and there is surveillance footage of him there.

I genuinely don't know what % to ballpark a lewd video. Pretty much everything else in the dossier is proven to be true, but I'd still go like 50% here, with what *I believe* to be in the video is Trump doing next to nothing lewd himself but hookers doing strange **** for a ton of money.

Fwiw basically ~all unsuccessful models are young Russian girls. They get "Discovered," go to NYC/Paris/Milan etcetc (Often without a Visa, just like Melania, it's suuuuuuper standard), then because they're a 17 year old girl who doesnt know English coming from a poor Russian family they fail and I assume some end up as prostitutes. Pretty sad tbh.
03-05-2017 , 06:48 PM
50%

Push that to 90% if we broaden it to "tape with POTUS participating in sexual things which would make him look really bad"

Hey the 19.5% Rosneft thing was a total coincidence though!
03-05-2017 , 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
Goofyballer,

% chance a tape exists of Trump being pissed on by Russian hookers?
I don't know. Is that something you consider to be "fake news"? I was expecting Sushy to go down this route, didn't think a super progressive would.

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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
LOL. What?

Do you think it suddenly stopped one month ago?

Gtfo with that. LMAO
So that's a no on providing any citation? Cool, stfu with your nonsense claims then.
03-05-2017 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Lol @ going per 1000 residents after a 30 post back and forth after we were strictly talking total numbers. Again, pure comedy.

How many long term (permanent residency) does Belgium grant per year? Yes, we are well aware people can travel through the euro zone and visit freely. You said live, not visit. Every word out of you is a lie.

How many?
03-05-2017 , 06:55 PM
Goofy,

I am just curious how much credit you are assigning, since so many seem quite confident that it would exist, despite any evidence supporting such theories, but I mean if you are unable to give any sort of answer that is pretty telling.

Then again a lot of those people were quoting known child pornographer Kurt Eichenwald, so maybe their judgment is pretty questionable.
03-05-2017 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
I am just curious how much credit you are assigning, since so many seem quite confident that it would exist, despite any evidence supporting such theories, but I mean if you are unable to give any sort of answer that is pretty telling.
What exactly do you think it is telling of, Dan?
03-05-2017 , 06:58 PM
So Wil, you went from 'nobody wants to live in belgium' because you didn't know the difference between citizenship and a visa, to their net migration being above the USA and now you want raw numbers rather than per capita vs a country with 1/30 your population? looooooooooool
03-05-2017 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
Goofy,

I am just curious how much credit you are assigning, since so many seem quite confident that it would exist, despite any evidence supporting such theories, but I mean if you are unable to give any sort of answer that is pretty telling.

Then again a lot of those people were quoting known child pornographer Kurt Eichenwald, so maybe their judgment is pretty questionable.
What would it matter if someone said 10% vs 30% vs 50% vs 75%? What would that "tell?" What would that matter at all?
03-05-2017 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
What exactly do you think it is telling of, Dan?
Either willful ignorance or conscious intellectual dishonesty of course. But life is easy when one refuses to consider reality and embraces the cowardice of being unable to debate via fact and first principles.
03-05-2017 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
What would it matter if someone said 10% vs 30% vs 50% vs 75%? What would that "tell?" What would that matter at all?
To be completely blind to the level of conspiracy theory, outlandish claims, unsourced claims that has been taking place among the Third Way democrats over the last few months is not conducive to rational discourse and progressive ideals.
03-05-2017 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
Either willful ignorance or conscious intellectual dishonesty of course. But life is easy when one refuses to consider reality and embraces the cowardice of being unable to debate via fact and first principles.
What on earth are you talking about? I think it's >0 and <100 and I think any attempt to really drill down into a specific number within that range is meaningless because there's no reliable way of doing so - but you're accusing me of intellectual dishonesty for seeing the futility in such a stupid exercise? Jesus dude.
03-05-2017 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
What on earth are you talking about? I think it's >0 and <100 and I think any attempt to really drill down into a specific number within that range is meaningless because there's no reliable way of doing so - but you're accusing me of intellectual dishonesty for seeing the futility in such a stupid exercise? Jesus dude.
lol
03-05-2017 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
lol
As usual you have no argument here other than ****ting on people that have consistently displayed more progressive values on this forum than you.
03-05-2017 , 07:14 PM
I mean, your reply is completely laughable, sorry all I could muster was an LOL.

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Originally Posted by HastenDan
To be completely blind to the level of conspiracy theory, outlandish claims, unsourced claims that has been taking place among the Third Way democrats over the last few months is not conducive to rational discourse and progressive ideals.
"It is between 0 and 100%!!!" Lol give me a break. Have some self respect.
03-05-2017 , 07:17 PM
Ah, you do want people to drill down into a stupid exercise that cannot possibly result in an accurate estimation of the chance such a thing exists. Yep, just as dumb of a series of posts as I thought.
03-05-2017 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
So Wil, you went from 'nobody wants to live in belgium' because you didn't know the difference between citizenship and a visa, to their net migration being above the USA and now you want raw numbers rather than per capita vs a country with 1/30 your population? looooooooooool
You couldn't be more dishonest in your argument. Visiting or passing through is one thing. You said "live". Live means residency.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration

Immigration and migration rate are two completely different things, which you've obviously switched to when you couldn't prove your numbers. It's apparently very difficult to get permanent residency in Belgium. The USA grants a million people a year permanent residency.

Your argument here simply couldn't be more dishonest or misleading, with you shifting goalposts every single step of the way. First live. Then visa. Then migration rate, not residency, per 1000 people

And this is why arguing any single topic with you is a waste of time.
03-05-2017 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Uh no. I think you'll find that most Europeans enjoy the shorter working weeks, much longer holidays, weekends to themselves and generally better food and wine.

And then there's the politics...

So that's 350M people accounted for. Admittedly there are probably billions in India and China who'd gladly move to the US if they had a job to go to, but they'd probably also move to Europe if they could.

How's life in your cloud cuckoo land?
How come nobody in America wants to move away? Why would anybody downgrade to Europe or Canada? You have major issues with terrorism and mass immigration. Why would anybody want to live in a socialist society? So you can wait 8 months to have a sergury? No thanks. People from Europe and Canada fly to the US so they can get quality health care. You don't even have the NFL over there. You only have soccer..."yeah, we won 1 to 0"...ugh! It's like they have a different word for everything in some places of Europe and Canada. People immigrate there because it's close and it's easy to get in. I'm sure if the US was closer, they would all come here.
03-05-2017 , 07:38 PM
Mong, people generally only "move away" because of work and/or family. Most Americans don't seek work or have reason to move for family outside of your borders. This is why most immigrants seeking to enter the USA are from Mexico and the Philippines. I hope this helps you out!

I would like a citation or retraction, given that this is a content thread, on Canada having problems with terrorism and immigration. Then again, this dude can't even spell "Surgery" correctly and has no idea about the intricacies of the Canadian healthcare system.

      
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