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02-08-2017 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
I can't speak for kerowo, but posting youtube links is the worst possible way to make a point or educate someone. Videos are an incredibly inefficient way to disseminate information, post an article instead ffs. I never watch youtubezzz that get posted in politics and it has nothing to do with the person posting it or the content of the video.
I do agree with this. However, most of the articles out there related to this particular topic are either fringish sites that spout nonsense, behind paywalls, or proprietary information.

Which is why I am surprised that someone relatively sane has spoken on this with sharp analysis, as it is very similar to some rather limited access and expensive analysis materials that I do have on hand.
02-08-2017 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ogallalabob
Milo was invited, he had every right to speak and was prevented by illegal and violent means. That is wrong.
It also seems wrong for a university group to invite someone associated with racist harassment. So I guess it's even.
02-08-2017 , 03:16 PM


Here's what a Republican congressman from Michigan thinks about that:

02-08-2017 , 03:32 PM
I actually like the you tube videos more, but I usually listen to the ones I'm more biased towards. Turning it on and listening while in the shower is convenient.
02-08-2017 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
I can't speak for kerowo, but posting youtube links is the worst possible way to make a point or educate someone. Videos are an incredibly inefficient way to disseminate information, post an article instead ffs. I never watch youtubezzz that get posted in politics and it has nothing to do with the person posting it or the content of the video.
This.
02-08-2017 , 03:36 PM
Spamming long lists of links is counterproductive imo.

People just glaze over and move on to the next post.
02-08-2017 , 03:39 PM
Okay, I'll just do one at a time.

Yemen raid targeted an AQAP leader who they didn't get, and he's now taunting the US

Also in that article, this is how Mattis convinced Trump to do the raid:

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After two months of military preparation increasingly focused on the opportunity to capture al-Rimi, Trump was told by Defense Secretary James Mattis and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff that his capture would be a "game changer," according to a senior White House official with direct knowledge of the discussions.

In making their case, they told Trump that they doubted that the Obama administration would have been bold enough to try it, this official said.
Trump tries to score a quick and easy PR victory to look stronger than Obama, but instead botches it and gets a US soldier + numerous civilians killed in the process. Great work from a great leader!
02-08-2017 , 03:46 PM
Trump didn't botch it. The people who carried it out botched it.
02-08-2017 , 03:51 PM
No, the people who voted for Trump botched it.
02-08-2017 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
Trump didn't botch it. The people who carried it out botched it.
Thank you so much for this quote, it's phenomenal. Gonna let it marinate for a bit.
02-08-2017 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer


Here's what a Republican congressman from Michigan thinks about that:

Justin Amash is great. Best politician besides Ron Paul.

Asset seizure is jackbooted thievery, plain and simple.
02-08-2017 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
Trump didn't botch it. The people who carried it out botched it.
LMAO, What an open minded view!
02-08-2017 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Thank you so much for this quote, it's phenomenal. Gonna let it marinate for a bit.
Well, you didn't waste much time in cross posting it in P alpha.
02-08-2017 , 04:00 PM
Yeah that's where it's marinating. Just a great quote, the best quote.
02-08-2017 , 04:05 PM
I'll give Trump some credit - for once, it seems like his angry tweets are actually helping a business!

02-08-2017 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ogallalabob
Does it matter who shut Milo down? It is clear he was shut down due to violence and illegal means.
No one was hurt.

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The peaceful protesters would not have been able to shut him down.
And that's why you like 'peaceful protesters', isn't it?

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Milo was invited, he had every right to speak...
No, he hadn't. Because his own website, Breitbart, had billed him as planning to incite direct personal hostility against named individual students who have done nothing wrong. And that is not the legitimate exercise of free speech. And people can protest against that kind of thing all they like.

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Further, it is clear that Warren was attacking Sessions character. Just because it is an old letter and from MLK's wife really is besides the point. Warren agreed with the attacks and indicated they would go on if allowed to speak. Now maybe the Senate should get rid of the rule and let the Senators make such attacks. It would make for a more interesting Senate but that is not the rules.
No, Rule XIX did not apply because Coretta Scott King, via Warren, was not referring to Sessions' conduct as a United States Senator (since he was not a senator at the time), nor did the debate have to do with his fitness to serve as a United States Senator but his fitness to serve as Attorney General.

But you just despise Martin Luther King, and Coretta Scott King, and Elizabeth Warren, and Democrats and ******-lovers generally, and you just want to 'keep 'em down', don't you?
02-08-2017 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
No one was hurt.
This is a lie.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/us/mil...ulos-berkeley/

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At least six people were injured. Some were attacked by the agitators -
Someone else posted a link interviewing a wife of a person who suffered broken ribs and liver damage due to the attacks.



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No, he hadn't. Because his own website, Breitbart, had billed him as planning to incite direct personal hostility against named individual students who have done nothing wrong. And that is not the legitimate exercise of free speech. And people can protest against that kind of thing all they like.
Not sure what your point is are you are disputing he was invited? or that he was going to follow the rules of the collage?


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No, Rule XIX did not apply because Coretta Scott King, via Warren, was not referring to Sessions' conduct as a United States Senator (since he was not a senator at the time),
That is a pretty tortured reading of the rule. Such a definition would not serve any purpose whatsoever. Just say anything you want about a Senator as long as you start with "prior to him being elected".

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But you just despise Martin Luther King, and Coretta Scott King, and Elizabeth Warren, and Democrats and ******-lovers generally, and you just want to 'keep 'em down', don't you?
LOL so if one does not agree with allowing them to flaunt the rules they must despise them? It was either a personal attack or it was not. You seem to agree that it was but really liked it and it was made by Warren so it should be allowed.
02-08-2017 , 04:57 PM
The media finally found out the truth about the Bowling Green Massacre!

A terrorist attack really was being plotted in Bowling Green, OH - by a white nationalist

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The man arrested and charged was Richard Schmidt, a middle-aged owner of a sports-memorabilia business at a mall in town. Prosecutors would later call him a white supremacist. His planned targets, federal authorities said, had been African-Americans and Jews. They’d found a list with the names and addresses of those to be assassinated, including the leaders of N.A.A.C.P. chapters in Michigan and Ohio.

But Mr. Schmidt wound up being sentenced to less than six years in prison, after a federal judge said prosecutors had failed to adequately establish that he was a political terrorist, and he is scheduled for release in February 2018. The foiling of what the government worried was a credible plan for mass murder gained little national attention.
Kellyanne was right, the Bowling Green Massacre was super underreported! How have we never heard about this crazy right-wing terrorist before?
02-08-2017 , 06:53 PM
From the "how on earth is this news in 2017" department, More than 300 health organizations write letter to Trump urging him to reconsider vaccine skepticism

That's right, the president of the United States is worried that vaccines might cause autism.

02-08-2017 , 07:31 PM
Trump lies to sheriffs group about the murder rate in the US

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"I'd say that in a speech and everybody was surprised because the press doesn't like to tell it like it is," Trump said during a meeting with US sheriffs at the White House. "It wasn't to their advantage to say that. The murder rate is the highest it's been in I guess 45-47 years."
02-08-2017 , 07:57 PM
Of course Trump is going to look bad if all you do is point out the dumb lies he constantly says.
02-08-2017 , 08:20 PM
What a weasel senator Blumenthal is to leak this comment.

Judge Robard is putting the lives of Americans at risk. He should be condemned.

The 9th circuit has 85% of it's judgements overturned by the Supreme court. This is why we need to Trump. We need judges to rule on the law and not get involved with politics.
02-08-2017 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
No, the people who voted for Trump botched it.
This is silly!
02-08-2017 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mongidig
This is why we need to Trump. We need judges to rule on the law and not get involved with politics.
Trump's SCOTUS nominee finds this post disheartening and demoralizing

      
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