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Originally Posted by pokerodox
Muslims are on a continuum. There are very bad ones - terrorists. There are just bad ones - believing it is good to kill female adulterers, gay people and those leaving Islam. Those somewhere in between with similar but less severe, odious beliefs. And there are modernized good Muslims. Look at the Pew reports. Many of them (if minorities, still huge total numbers of people), even in the worst of countries answered the questions in ways indicating some beliefs in freedom.
My view is we need to keep the good ones on our side, and bring as many from the middle as possible over to our side, while killing the very bad ones (which I normally just call the bad guys).
This is analogous to the Cold War. We had to fight the USSR (and China) on all fronts, sometimes hot wars, sometimes containment actions, but at least as important was the war of ideas. Leck Walensa (sp?) and others like him, supported by U.S. radio broadcasts, etc. and journalism like the National Review, were essential to winning the Cold War by winning the hearts and minds of those living in the Eastern Block, and even the population of Russia itself. Similarly, winning the hearts and minds of Muslims will be essential to winning this war against Islamofascism.
The pen is mightier than the sword.
So I guess we agree on this vvv
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Supporting the ones who are tolerant and want to reform Islam should be our goal. Being silent and "respecting" their "culture" shouldn't.
But not this vvv
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Muslims can change when they decide as a group to change.
I'm saying that it is extremely important for us to treat them separately and individually. In some cases that is impossible, thus we have the temp travel ban. But my point is that when you have to do something that hurts the good Muslims, you should thoroughly explain it, and point out that you're just trying to hurt the bad Muslims (in the case of killing terrorists) or protect the U.S. from the bad Muslims (in the case of the temp ban).
We NEED to explain ourselves to the good and fence-sitting Muslims.