I don't think it's that generous. :P

Conceded on both points. I already retracted my statement. I forgot it was in that thread.

The thing is, bad modding decisions happen. I know I made plenty of them when I was a mod. I calibrate my outrage to the consequences of the decision. A 2-day temp-ban mistake is sort of eh, whatever. It's self-correcting. If those bad decisions happen constantly that's a problem. But I imagine that if the other stuff hadn't gone down it would have been forgotten relatively quickly. My opinion is that chez hasn't been as bad as a mod as I expected, or as bad as some of you seem to think.

Keep in mind, though: that's just, like, my opinion man. Take it for whatever you think it's worth. I'm sure it's an enormous mistake to get into this conversation but there is work to avoid doing, so here I am.

what level of abuse are you envisioning that chez receives?

He lies about something/everything, people call him on it. THE HORROR!

I'm not getting into the specifics too much (for now at least) but LG got a 2 day timeout not a temp ban. That left him free to post in P and anywhere else on 2+2. The possibility of error and confusion is one of the reasons I prefer timeouts to temp bans.

On one other point. !!! threads are not totally unmoderated. Apart from the PC rules which still apply there are limits on what is acceptable trolling.

I can't bring myself to call it a timeout.

Okay but it's significantly different for those who spend a lot of time at 2+2 and post in multiple forums.

temp-exile?

This is where I think the 2+ year history of chez gaslighting and trolling the politics forms comes into play. If this was just a one-odd bad decision, I'd agree.

Who asked for these draconian, poorly thought out, horrifically implemented and entirely biased changes in the first place Chez? Was it just you or did "dumb as a bag of dicks" foldn ask for it too?

Meaning you never will. I mean, back when I explained that this was the thread you used to have an out when people complained about modding, not a thread to actually discuss modding with you, you deleted it. Perfectly understandable that you'd not want to talk about the only specific case people are talking about right now.

Lol, just for old time's sake, here's a post of mine that got deleted yesterday:

That was a no-go huh?

Yes that was a no-go. So was the post that followed about ****faces. I hope you appreciated me leaving the "holy ****ing god" post that proceeded it.

BTW as a large part of the reason for rules is to avoid derails, it doesn't help you to put them one after the other.

One man's derail is anoth-

Imo that post distills the argument down to its basic essence, with the added bonus of some comic relief.

And the ****faces post was about the excessive use of UTubZ.

You can maybe see the problem if everyone is allowed to give their views on the basic essence of others arguments in that way?

and 5ive, your "Fun New Game: Post an image of your 'recommended' list on the UTubZZ homepage"

I've no objection to the game (except mine sucks so bad after having to click on too many links here) but why stick it in that thread?

Original Position- Do you have any other questions or did chezlaw answer them all for you?

But Original just a ****ing headsup from a normie, me, to you, someone who absolutely got sat down for the "Mr. and Mrs. Position, your son is, well, special" conversation, don't you ever ****ing dare to talk back to normies. Demanding evidence like that's a good faith request, are you ****ing high?

I mean chezlaw has literally twice in the last ****ing page literally REFUSED TO EXPLAIN MODERATION DECISIONS by providing examples of inappropriate content, but ole Original Position just thinks it's shameful that a guy who lies about ****ing everything constantly and has spent a ****ing decade defending racists gets "treated like dirt".

Get the **** out of here. If you aren't interested in educating yourself, keep your ****ing opinion to yourself.

I literally asked why my post was deleted and you moved that post to this thread. And then after someone else asked why asked you still didn't answer!


chezlaw quoted this, in this thread, in the last page. chez this **** is why you're so ****ing bad at this, you're too ****ing stupid to lie convincingly.

Yes. This is the place to discuss why it was deleted.

As a curtosey I moved it here and responded rather than just deleting that post completely - it has no place in the other content threads.

chezlaw when you lie you have to be aware you're lying, right? You think it's a fun game to troll the libtards.

But you can't forget that you're trolling the libtards and then act surprised that we're mad at you. Despite your near constant deletion of posts we still remember what ****ing happened, it's all public.

lol at dumb trolls on lolutooobzzzzz universally rejecting SJWs.

Seriously chezlaw if you were as liberal as you claim you are that literally every left of center reg loathes you would provoke some tiny bit of introspection.

I didn't have a question for chezlaw.

Chezlaw has spent more time explaining his decisions than any other moderator on 2p2 that I've seen.

No.

The fact you aren't banned from 2p2 politics is the biggest mistake the politics moderators continue to make. You'll occasionally make a clever point, but not often enough to justify the atrocious way you treat other people.

I asked well named for evidence that chezlaw intentionally riles people up. Well named clarified that I had misunderstood him, so I didn't pursue it further. Trolly said that the banning of LG was evidence of the claim. I don't agree - maybe he thought chezlaw's decision was wrong, but that isn't evidence of chezlaw's intentions for making that decision.