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03-19-2017 , 03:27 AM
I think Zwarte's 1st wife was a tard, though hopefully she still led a kickass life, became a pilot or something. He seems to have a fixation.


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Originally Posted by Black Peter
Actually, you did explicitly say they were ok as long as they weren't used towards those actual groups.

I'm glad you are realizing now that they are never appropriate to use.
03-19-2017 , 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by juan valdez
pop quiz

can you describe the difference between category a) and category b)

a) the N-word, and the F word used for gay people

b) ******, cripple, midget,
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Truly the questions that those intellectuals with multiple degrees end up proposing.

Here's a thing: I think I might be personally responsible for '******(ed)' not being included in the profanity filter, way back when it was introduced. I wasn't even trying to make a case for it to not be included, I was just sharing my thoughts in the mod forum about how various offensive terms can linguistically function very differently. Basically, I was explaining why people have a wide variety of responses because they're actually responding to an great amount of underlying information, etymology and sociology and so on, and not just marking off a binary box of y/n offensive/not-offensive. I've felt a little bad about it that maybe my examples were used to come to the decision to not censor the r-word.

The only silver lining is it seems to trigger Zwarte Piet so that's something.

For example (in a spoiler if you don't want to read offensive words even in the context of an etymology discussion):

Spoiler:
The 2 most offensive words for a Black American are obviously 'n****r' and arguably 'c**n' but their respective histories are wildly different.
'N****r' is essentially a nonsense gibberish word (Chappelle and Brennan even had a skit about it I believe). Its only real world frame is the color black, a derivative of the similar words in various languages that descend from the Latin word, 'nigrum', that were then used to describe people with a similar skin tone ('negro' in Spanish, 'negre' in Catalan, 'negru' in Romanian and so on... Also, black people are not the color black and white people are not the color white but basically all people are not creative so the terms stuck). The literal definition never varied, it was just used with progressively more stank until it became this black hole of a hate term.
On the other hand, 'C**n' is derived from this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barracoon (and has nothing to do with raccoons). The word has always meant 'slave', specifically 'black slave'.
Logic might dictate the latter would obviously be more offensive than the former (and sure, way back people thought the name 'n****rhead' was cute to put on everything but nobody named things 'c**nhead') but things are can be linguistically messy even if they're etymologically neat , obviously.


Last edited by 5ive; 03-19-2017 at 04:34 AM.
03-19-2017 , 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by whosnext
Maybe try being a better poster. If that is too difficult, you will have to find something else to occupy your time.
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
That's more like it.

I'm a fan of whosnext because s/he uses the word 'sanctions' regularly.


THERE WILL BE





SANCTIONS
03-19-2017 , 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Wish I could have seen the latest misogyny from Wil before it got deleted.
Who is shocked that mong is super mad that he can't call people ******s?
Imagine the hackiest early 90s comedian talking about 'women be talking too much' and 'men be wanting quiet', sprinkle on a little 50s style 'men have srs biz jobs and women only care about breaking a nail', then garnish with some of that absolute black hole of stupidity, MRA propaganda, and voila!

You can see some MRA stains there now.
03-19-2017 , 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by The REAL Trolly
It's clear that you posted here after it was brought to your attention and you didn't say anything about them. So you must have been aware of the matter yet it wasn't until whosnext came by that they were deleted.

I'm happy with whosenext taking care of business. I'm not happy with you demonstrably not doing your job. Any explanation for your behavior?
Maybe he was busy doing something else. God forbid he has an actual life away from this board.
03-19-2017 , 08:09 AM
^^ Yeah this, and it's not a conventional job.
03-19-2017 , 08:45 AM
Chez didn't delete it. Whosnext did because he's a pussy who caves into pressure from morons like Trolly. Chez wouldn't have done what Whosnext did, but Chez now can't back away from it without making Whosnext look bad. If Whosnext had half a brain he would have either consulted Chez first or let Chez handle it.

Meanwhile, no one really wants Whosnext as the mod here (except Chez, who I'm sure is having second thoughts about it), no one knows who he was in the first place and he's shown he's a complete moron.

Both mods aren't on the same page, which is why you get idiotic situations like this where literally every party is unhappy, except maybe Trolly.

Bang up job, Whosnext. You should have stuck to fapping to Zelda characters.

Last edited by wil318466; 03-19-2017 at 08:56 AM.
03-19-2017 , 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
Maybe he was busy doing something else. God forbid he has an actual life away from this board.
He was in this thread responding to multiple other comments. Wasn't too busy to do that, but still blatantly ignored multiple requests for him to address the issue.

You can go back and check the last few pages of this thread, although I'm sure there's a good chance chez will delete those posts to cover his tracks like usual.
03-19-2017 , 09:25 AM
I don't care for the mods' incomprehensibility policy. I do enjoy their making Wil go crazy policy.
03-19-2017 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
Meanwhile, no one really wants Whosnext as the mod here (except Chez, who I'm sure is having second thoughts about it), no one knows who he was in the first place and he's shown he's a complete moron.
There's always so much wrong with wil.

Firstly you're only angry with Whosnext because he deleted a lake of your drivel and told you to post better or **** off lol, a sentiment the majority of posters here probably share.

Secondly you're not in any sort of position to call anyone here a moron. Your prejudiced far-right posts are routinely laughed at and debunked on a daily basis for being either ill-informed, lacking logic or racist/sexist, and the only people who agree with them are idiots like mong, su****forbrains and juank. Consider what that implies, for a moment.
03-19-2017 , 09:53 AM
Shoutout to whosnext, doing a great job moderating so far DRAIN THE SWAMP imo
03-19-2017 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
Maybe he was busy doing something else. God forbid he has an actual life away from this board.
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
^^ Yeah this, and it's not a conventional job.
Life has been busy but the actual facts are that whosnext and I have been discussing PC and sexism since Trolly's post reports. That's usually how we handle moderating issues which break new ground for the forum - as was the case this time as Wil correctly points out. Then either of us do the actual modding - on this occasion it was whosnext.

Trolly is completely wrong if he thinks either mod was ignoring his post reports. Wil is wrong if he blames whosnext rather than both of us.
03-19-2017 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by The REAL Trolly
He was in this thread responding to multiple other comments. Wasn't too busy to do that, but still blatantly ignored multiple requests for him to address the issue.

You can go back and check the last few pages of this thread, although I'm sure there's a good chance chez will delete those posts to cover his tracks like usual.
You're an idiot. He doesn't work for pay. He doesn't owe you ****. He doesn't have to read every post. If you want to whine, report the post and wait your turn.
03-19-2017 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Bladesman87
I don't care for the mods' incomprehensibility policy. I do enjoy their making Wil go crazy policy.
A+ simpsons reference
03-19-2017 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
There's always so much wrong with wil.

Firstly you're only angry with Whosnext because he deleted a lake of your drivel and told you to post better or **** off lol, a sentiment the majority of posters here probably share.

Secondly you're not in any sort of position to call anyone here a moron. Your prejudiced far-right posts are routinely laughed at and debunked on a daily basis for being either ill-informed, lacking logic or racist/sexist, and the only people who agree with them are idiots like mong, su****forbrains and juank. Consider what that implies, for a moment.
Constant idiocy out of you. Firstly scores of people have had issue with whosnext, me included. While I may not have said much it was simply a matter of time.

And I'm in quite a good position to call someone a moron, as I'm constantly proven right about everything.

Whosnext is an idiot as a mod, everyone here knows it. Meanwhile you got einbert voting for the forum to be shut down yet encouraging him. What do you think that implies? What's actually going on here? It's pretty obvious.

They will succeed in their goal of getting this forum either shutdown or completely dead. It's only a matter of time.
03-19-2017 , 10:41 AM
I've got my criticisms too. I'd like to see more sanctions, for one thing. But overall they're doing a bang-up job. Why don't you just address the issues on the merits? If so this forum would be fine.
03-19-2017 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Life has been busy but the actual facts are that whosnext and I have been discussing PC and sexism since Trolly's post reports. That's usually how we handle moderating issues which break new ground for the forum - as was the case this time as Wil correctly points out. Then either of us do the actual modding - on this occasion it was whosnext.

Trolly is completely wrong if he thinks either mod was ignoring his post reports. Wil is wrong if he blames whosnext rather than both of us.
This is obviously not true due to the comment whosnext made when he deleted the posts. It was an on-the-fly decision, unless there was communication in real-time I am unaware of. I'd be very surprised if I was wrong about this. Why would you have him cull the thread instead of you just doing it?

You made a bad choice making him a co mod. He's just not good, and he doesn't make good choices, Chez. No one likes him and people disagree with him. He has no prior history or experience here.

I don't blame you for covering for him, as you have no other choice, but please, don't talk to me like I'm stupid. The situation is what it is. So be it.
03-19-2017 , 10:48 AM
That specific modding was done by whosnext. The decision to delete sexist posts in line with the PC approach (and in that thread in particular) was discussed following Trolly's post report.
03-19-2017 , 10:51 AM
You're a good dude, Chez. I have no animosity towards you, I just think you made a bad choice. We shall see.

Have fun.
03-19-2017 , 10:59 AM
Txs. I appreciate (and share) the sentiment even though we disagree.
03-19-2017 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
And I'm in quite a good position to call someone a moron, as I'm constantly proven right about everything.
Recently proven wrong about the Netherlands election.
Soon to be proven wrong again about the French election.


Taking a page from your master Trump's book and persistently claiming up is down and in is out doesn't convince anyone of anything apart from your desperation. Lying about everything under the sun doesn't actually win you any arguments.

You're a hopeless knobhead because you think arguing on the internet is only about saying whatever it takes not to be proven wrong, including lying and ignoring inconvenient truths. You're not here to learn about anything from people with more knowledge and experience than you (ie most of the forum), just to rant and rave your bilious one dimensional opinions.
03-19-2017 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Black Peter
You're an idiot. He doesn't work for pay. He doesn't owe you ****. He doesn't have to read every post. If you want to whine, report the post and wait your turn.
The post was reported, try to keep up.
03-19-2017 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Recently proven wrong about the Netherlands election.
Soon to be proven wrong again about the French election.


Taking a page from your master Trump's book and persistently claiming up is down and in is out doesn't convince anyone of anything apart from your desperation. Lying about everything under the sun doesn't actually win you any arguments.

You're a hopeless knobhead because you think arguing on the internet is only about saying whatever it takes not to be proven wrong, including lying and ignoring inconvenient truths. You're not here to learn about anything from people with more knowledge and experience than you (ie most of the forum), just to rant and rave your bilious one dimensional opinions.
There is absolutely nothing you've ever said that I didn't know already. You literally have never taught me a single thing. I'm better, and smarter, than you in every single way. I'm just a better human being than you.

Truth hurts. Maybe you should work on some things than trying to insult others. Shrug.
03-19-2017 , 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by The REAL Trolly
The post was reported, try to keep up.
Try to wait your turn, squeaker.
03-19-2017 , 11:28 AM
So women are a vulnerable group? There is half the worlds population. Muslims are a protected group? Might as well say all religion groups are vulnerable group and any and all minorities that live in the west.

Also atheists are a vulnerable group as they make up a small percentage of the population. And of course LGQT...whatever are a vulnerable group.


This whole PC **** is ******ed and you can say everyone falls into one category or another. This forum is really starting to suck.

      
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