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08-15-2017 , 04:06 AM
You're the bigot.

babe.
08-15-2017 , 04:08 AM
Evidence please.
08-15-2017 , 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
Evidence please.
You are intolerant of other peoples opinions.

That's the definition of bigotry.
08-15-2017 , 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
It seems that we are all going to be forced to accept other people's realities under threat.

Lol. The jackboot of "liberalism" stomps on people's heads. Conform, or else. We will FORCE you to believe in what we do!

No matter what winds up happening - know that your side didn't win.
You asked to have the forum shut down, in this thread.
08-15-2017 , 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
It seems that we are all going to be forced to accept other people's realities under threat.

Lol. The jackboot of "liberalism" stomps on people's heads. Conform, or else. We will FORCE you to believe in what we do!

No matter what winds up happening - know that your side didn't win.

Sup my fellow African-American? Are you being forced to post here?
08-15-2017 , 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
You are intolerant of other peoples opinions.

That's the definition of bigotry.

No, I am intolerant of bigotry. Intolerance of bigotry is not bigotry.
08-15-2017 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
No, I am intolerant of bigotry. Intolerance of bigotry is not bigotry.
You have succeeded in shutting down this forum precisely because you don't agree with opinions expressed in it.

That's incredible bigotry. That you can't even see that is astonishing.
08-15-2017 , 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
This thread actually has me ready to close the forum. It never turned into anything particularly interesting and now its becoming a burden to me. So, no need to convince me it's a problem. Well named will have to convince me to keep it alive. I say well named because chez is the one people are complaining about to me and I believe who's next is closely aligned with chez, though I may be mistaken about that

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
Why not just perma ban white supremacists?

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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
you are right.

With one difference: politics7.0 will be no more very soon. I gave my word that I will hear Well Named out, so i shall, and he deserves a few days to respond. But I see no good reason for the forum to exist anymore.

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
And then what happens when the bigots start posting in other political forums or threads, such as the one in POG?

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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
you wouldn't. but congrats on helping me realize the forum should be closed.

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
No problem Mat


If leaving it open and allowing the bigotry to be posted as is the case now, and just deleting the whole forum are the only two options, then take the second one please. But I see no reason why these are the only two options, and I've seen no reasoning at all why perma banning the handful of posters causing all the problems isn't a better solution than the two aforementioned.

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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
those are the only options. it's been a nice 4 year run. my baby graduated from college and it's time for an abortion.

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
But why?



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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
Sure, I can do that. Hopefully cat pictures aren't so offensive as to disrupt the incredibly serious and productive ten thousandth go-round of BruceZ is racist, no he's not, yes he is, no he's not.

Advertisers probably aren't aware of the bigots and their posts. Thus explains why I was planning to send them emails to make them aware.

Regarding user complaints and suggestions, there seems to be a very small handful suggesting to just delete the forum entirely. Most members seem to be suggesting different mods, or banning the problem posters.

Still don't understand why only two options, and why banning the problem members isn't a good, or possible solution.

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Originally Posted by Mat Sklansky
what does fly actually win? i, much in the way trump thanked putin, thank fly. we're in the midst of downsizing the forums and i am personally downsizing my life. sold a little property and paid off some debt.

and now, there's a bonus: i don't have to think about a crappy little forum that wasted my time in a variety of ways. thank you mr fly. and i'm not really joking, though i do hope it seems funny. that's important.

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
OK, I just got caught up on the happenings of the day in just the Trump thread.

Mat, please delete the forum. Politics Unchained was not a place where white supremacy was defended, it was largely just endless discussion on ACism, and people doing quite benevolent name calling. It was nothing like it is now, please just delete it. I don't even remember what your second option was, and you haven't offered any sort of explanation as to why simply perma banning the problem members isn't an option, either for the current mods, or via modding me and I immediately perma ban them as a first act, so just delete the forum.

But don't think that's going to solve the problem of bigotry and defense of white supremacy on twoplustwo, because those users are going to post in other forums. Maybe even the forum modded by augie_.


Try again babe
08-15-2017 , 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
You have succeeded in shutting down this forum precisely because you don't agree with opinions expressed in it.

That's incredible bigotry. That you can't even see that is astonishing.
You are going to have to up your game, your posting here is time limited and you're still making the same point that you made earlier and one that's been refuted.

BS make hay while you still have the opportunity then **** off somewhere where your views will be given due consideration. At least when the daily stormer finds a new home.
08-15-2017 , 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by dereds
You are going to have to up your game, your posting here is time limited and you're still making the same point that you made earlier and one that's been refuted.

BS make hay while you still have the opportunity then **** off somewhere where your views will be given due consideration. At least when the daily stormer finds a new home.
LOL. So what?

Big ****ing deal. At least I won't have to read the nonsense you idiots post any more. It'll be a bloody relief actually. And I can go and play more poker. Sounds like a win, win to me.
08-15-2017 , 04:56 AM
chez, please tell me this is not the only ban that has been given out in this incarnation of this forum.


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Originally Posted by chezlaw
ACEG got a temp ban for flagrantly ignoring the timeout received for the link

There was a philosophical debate over whether that meant she got the ban for the link or for ignoring the timeout rule. I say the later.
08-15-2017 , 04:57 AM
LOL.
08-15-2017 , 04:57 AM
Hey babe, in case you're wondering, you're not one that I would perma ban for bigotry if I became mod. I've seen no evidence thus far of you being a bigot.

08-15-2017 , 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
LOL. So what?

Big ****ing deal. At least I won't have to read the nonsense you idiots post any more. It'll be a bloody relief actually. And I can go and play more poker. Sounds like a win, win to me.
You can do that now, or are you admitting you don't have the self control to choose to do something you like, play poker, rather than something you don't, read **** idiots like me post.
08-15-2017 , 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
chez, please tell me this is not the only ban that has been given out in this incarnation of this forum.
I think you have that honour. The timeouts were generally well complied with - several got a one-off warning not to flagrantly disregard them but you were steadfast in your cause (and a newbie account).
08-15-2017 , 05:22 AM
So let's put this into perspective.

I asserted that Breitbart wasn't credible, and linked to published critical analysis articles on two different Breitbart articles, and linked the Breitbart articles themselves as citations. You gave me a time out, which I did not comply with, and you banned me.

But yet there are people being openly apologetic towards Neo-Nazi terrorism, and blaming the victims and George Soros the jew, and they aren't banned.

This is quite infuriating to be honest. See any problems with this approach?
08-15-2017 , 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
Hey babe, in case you're wondering, you're not one that I would perma ban for bigotry if I became mod. I've seen no evidence thus far of you being a bigot.

Just shut the **** up. The best thing about the forum being shut down is that I wont have to read your ******ed nonsense anymore.

You are ****ing tool and the worst thing to happen to this forum is you. Stop acting like you are a big deal and your **** doesn't stink. ****ing idiot!
08-15-2017 , 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
I think you have that honour. The timeouts were generally well complied with - several got a one-off warning not to flagrantly disregard them but you were steadfast in your cause (and a newbie account).
I'm curious about something, Chez. Part of the reason me putting Cows on ignore was because I didn't want to force a mod decision on pronouns.

Now that things are looking.. shaky in terms of the survival of this forum, I must ask. Would you have forced people in this forum to adhere to a posters wishes of what pronouns they prefer to be referred to? I ask that knowing full well the absolute ****-show it would have turned into with others switching their preference back and forth just to troll.
08-15-2017 , 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnyCrash
Just shut the **** up. The best thing about the forum being shut down is that I wont have to read your ******ed nonsense anymore.

You are ****ing tool and the worst thing to happen to this forum is you. Stop acting like you are a big deal and your **** doesn't stink. ****ing idiot!
When all is said and done, AllCows will have been the final nail in the coffin. It goes to show how one person's personal vendetta and hatred towards people who disagree with them can be a galvanizing point. Cow's absolutist and extremist views somehow won.

In the history of this forum, Cows will go down as the worst person to ever enter it, in my book.
08-15-2017 , 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnyCrash
Just shut the **** up. The best thing about the forum being shut down is that I wont have to read your ******ed nonsense anymore.

You are ****ing tool and the worst thing to happen to this forum is you. Stop acting like you are a big deal and your **** doesn't stink. ****ing idiot!



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08-15-2017 , 05:31 AM
I understand why some things bothered you about the forum but frankly your problem with the timeouts instead of temp bans defeats me. It would, for example, have made no difference at all if Wil had had an 8 day temp ban instead of an 8 day timeout (except that I'm not supposed to give such long temp bans without approval from higher up)

Anyway it was a long time ago and I hope you forgive me for your temp ban.
08-15-2017 , 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
When all is said and done, AllCows will have been the final nail in the coffin. It goes to show how one person's personal vendetta and hatred towards people who disagree with them can be a galvanizing point. Cow's absolutist and extremist views somehow won.

In the history of this forum, Cows will go down as the worst person to ever enter it, in my book.
Yup
08-15-2017 , 05:32 AM
hey wil, **** you and your ilk for turning this forum into a ****ing cesspool of bigotry and literal apologetics for Neo-Nazi terrorism. That is absolutely not what this forum was originally.
08-15-2017 , 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by chezlaw
I understand why some things bothered you about the forum but frankly your problem with the timeouts instead of temp bans defeats me. It would, for example, have made no difference at all if Wil had had an 8 day temp ban instead of an 8 day timeout (except that I'm not supposed to give such long temp bans without approval from higher up)

Wouldn't have made a difference in this forum, but if a poster is merely given a timeout they can post on other forums. That's a pretty big difference. And why the need for approval for > 8 day timeouts? That's pretty ridiculous imo. Do you know if the politards alpha mods are under the same constraint?


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Originally Posted by chezlaw
Anyway it was a long time ago and I hope you forgive me for your temp ban.
Sure, I do, and I appreciate that

As long as this forum is still open though, I'm going to keep railing about the feckless time outs.
08-15-2017 , 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
hey wil, **** you and your ilk for turning this forum into a ****ing cesspool of bigotry.
I'm taking you off ignore because it seems there is limited time to express my views. I feel it's very important to make a point here.

What you did is philosophically repugnant. You demand that people conform to your views, which are in no way proven to be correct, under threat. That is not debate or discussion, it is tyranny.

You can't legislate morality. You can't FORCE me to accept your views. You may indeed silence people, but that is not winning. Know that when all is said and done, you didn't not win this argument, and I will never accept your reality, especially so now. I wish you the best in finding inner peace, but I guarantee you will be fighting this fight your entire life. Because you're wrong.

      
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