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03-05-2017 , 10:54 AM

#26

spanktehbadwookie

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Originally Posted by wil318466

Lol, what kind of argument is this? Please, inform us how much responsibility should be taken on?

All of it. Is it to much of a challenge to become responsible for past actions and chains of consequence happening now?

03-05-2017 , 11:43 AM

#27

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I was born here. Thanks.

I assumed you were born in the US. That doesn't mean you should be allowed to stay.

03-05-2017 , 12:21 PM

#28

wil318466

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Originally Posted by microbet

I assumed you were born in the US. That doesn't mean you should be allowed to stay.

Sure I should. Why wouldn't I be?

Let's say, compared to you, for example?

03-05-2017 , 12:54 PM

#29

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I assumed you were born in the US. That doesn't mean you should be allowed to stay.

Yeah, one can assume anyone was born anywhere on the planet. But to confirm if they should be allowed to stay is a whole additional process.

03-05-2017 , 01:21 PM

#30

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I'm not arguing against jus soli. I'm just discussing banishment for wil.

03-05-2017 , 01:28 PM

#31

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Yeah, but who'd have him?

03-05-2017 , 01:51 PM

#32

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I'm not arguing against jus soli. I'm just discussing banishment for wil.

Banishment, deportation,whatever. Gotta grab and confirm it's wil first in order to proceed towards orderly banishment.

03-05-2017 , 02:19 PM

#33

wil318466

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Originally Posted by microbet

I'm not arguing against jus soli. I'm just discussing banishment for wil.

Again, compare me to you. Make an argument why you'd stay over me?

Hint - you wouldn't.

03-05-2017 , 02:39 PM

#34

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Meh, micro's just put his troll-pants on.

03-05-2017 , 02:47 PM

#35

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Just gotta call them out on it.

03-05-2017 , 03:39 PM

#36

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That's being called out on it?

Ok, I'll indulge you on your question. Trading you for someone who wants to leave El Salvador or Syria would be an improvement because, unlike them, you make this a worse country. Now, every country should have democracy, but as long as some don't, you should rightly be in a country where you aren't allowed to vote.

03-05-2017 , 03:46 PM

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Well ok, but what do you have against El Salvador and Syria?

03-05-2017 , 03:55 PM

#38

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Well ok, but what do you have against El Salvador and Syria?

Ok, perhaps Antarctica. It was 63 degrees there the other day.

Or maybe the Trumpkins should go to Russia where they'll get the leader they really want.

03-05-2017 , 03:55 PM

#39

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Originally Posted by microbet

Oh no, that's not what I asked. I asked why you should stay and I should go. And, my view is you make it worse, so that's even. So on paper, who should go, me or you?

Hint - it's you.

As far as democracy, people should want and fight for it on their own. Why you think everyone should have it in a form we deem correct is bizarre.

03-05-2017 , 03:58 PM

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Obviously it's you wil. You believe in punching children in the face and letting them be sexually abused and raped by 30 years olds because they'll enjoy it.

03-05-2017 , 04:04 PM

#41

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi

Obviously it's you wil. You believe in punching children in the face and letting them be sexually abused and raped by 30 years olds because they'll enjoy it.

Oh no, I'm afraid not. Without a doubt I'm a much more valuable citizen than most others. Not even close, really.

03-05-2017 , 05:50 PM

#42

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Originally Posted by wil318466

no country has unlimited resources.

Therefore we should use no resources to help people at all. Logic.

03-05-2017 , 06:20 PM

#43

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Therefore we should use no resources to help people at all. Logic.

You know that's not what wil's position is.

03-05-2017 , 06:21 PM

#44

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Obviously it's you wil. You believe in punching children in the face and letting them be sexually abused and raped by 30 years olds because they'll enjoy it.

This has nothing to do with wil's imfamous kid punching remarks that were yesteryear as far as I'm concerned. If you don't have a real argument then just say so.

03-05-2017 , 06:23 PM

#45

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Originally Posted by leavesofliberty

This has nothing to do with wil's imfamous kid punching remarks that were yesteryear as far as I'm concerned. If you don't have a real argument then just say so.

You don't think it's better to deport someone like that than a decent citizen?

03-05-2017 , 07:13 PM

#46

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it's notable watching people ... perhaps finally ... coming to grips with the planet's very natural physical limits.

Everyone does, or will.

03-05-2017 , 07:17 PM

#47

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You don't think it's better to deport someone like that than a decent citizen?

No where did I say that I prefer people be deported. You have to go with what people actually argue rather than try to shoehorn what you believe they believe.

03-05-2017 , 11:56 PM

#48

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Lol, Microbet is single-handedly saving the world with solar-powered burritos. Nobody never accused wil of picking his battles wisely but come the **** on now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wil318466

Again, compare me to you. Make an argument why you'd stay over me?

Hint - you wouldn't.

03-06-2017 , 12:05 AM

#49

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Originally Posted by leavesofliberty

You know that's not what wil's position is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by leavesofliberty

This has nothing to do with wil's imfamous kid punching remarks that were yesteryear as far as I'm concerned. If you don't have a real argument then just say so.

If you wanted to police your thread properly you should've drawn a hard line at wil's 1st dumb-as-dirt reply. There's already a thread specifically for immigration and refugees. He clearly didn't and doesn't even grasp what you were aiming for with this thread.

You're facing The Chez Conundrum on a smaller scale.