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Originally Posted by LordJvK
Because my original question was about Merkel's policy of accepting 900,000+ refugees.
I mean, it seems a stretch to me to believe that Machiavelli would think the benefits would outweigh the costs on this.
Re: Mercy, he says this:
I am almost positive that Merkel's policy has not ensured that people are "united and loyal" and has allowed "disorders to arise ... which follow from murders or robberies".
From statistics I saw, over 60,000 crimes as a direct result of the policy, which is obviously a great cost.
I'd be interested to see if you could make a case for this actually being a case of virtu in the Machiavellian sense.
Please try to translate the 900k as a % of total population. Let's call it the 1.1%.
Accepting an increase by 1.1% of current population is so much of a stretch? why?
Are 60k crimes "obviously a great cost"? again can you give percentages of increase over the baseline?
I gave you a list of advantages coming from the refugee, in the present and in the future (demography being the most important), why are you so sure that machiavelli would weigth those as lower than the damages?
In the virtu sense, merkel is signalling an humanity that can be appreciated, why is that not clear? it's signaling to SPD and other leftists voters that she can be on the left when the morality of that choice is trasparent.
Remember that keeping german government on the center is a moral (and social, and economical) positive for the nation. So you could think of it as (maybe) sacrificing something in order to maintain power where it needs to be (ie not on the extremes).
Merkel is playing a balancing act between leftist extremism, and right extremism, maybe she overplayed a little on the left but she steered again to the center n recent times to combat AfD, and the polls give them at least the benefit of the doubt.
One of the way to look at the refugee intake is a concession to the german immigrationist left in order to secure power for a long time, without giving to that part of society the more negative things they ask for (bad public expense, too high of a minimum wage and so on).