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Signed and when the OP is done and we have the count in and if it is in favour of unbanning TS or at least restricting him to here then I suggest locking this thread and starting a new one in which the Wookie needs to answer for his permanent banning. I'm actually in favour of ditching this whole thread altogether and just starting one in which the Wookie needs to defend himself. Anyone else agree?

01-18-2017 , 08:19 AM

#78

dereds

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What would wookie needing to defend himself mean? Oh and **** off.

01-18-2017 , 08:30 AM

#79

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by markksman

Let's dabble in a hypothetical. What if at some point toothsayer agreed to never post in politics or he would get a permanent ban. What if this was consideration for other, butpotentially similar punishment?

Should a person be held to such an agreement even if they just posted by accident? Lots of people have been suspended / banned from twoplustwo over the years. Do you think in any cases such agreements were potentially reached? If so where is the line of action or inaction.

I have no idea how, what or why toothsayer got banned but given the way he talked about many things I could easily see him being met with a line in the sand.

I don't know the details of the ban either but if it is the case that the agreement was he could stay but not post in P then afaik TS stuck to the spirit of that agreement and a permanent ban seems disproportionate and unreasonable for the mistake. There may be more to it of course

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Personally I think there is a beneficial side effect to Chez's new world because even though I believe he believes in what he is trying to do, a poster like Toothsayer increased the degree of difficulty by magnitudes.

Indeed. Makes it a lot easier. Could get rid of all trump supporters and everyone who has illiberal views. What's the point though? It's a forum for talking politics.

01-18-2017 , 08:35 AM

#80

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bundy5

While we allow attacks on all politics posters in the

threads, I don't think it would be reasonable to include in that a thread about the modding of another forum.

01-18-2017 , 08:37 AM

#81

dereds

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

Indeed. Makes it a lot easier. Could get rid of all trump supporters and everyone who has illiberal views. What's the point though? It's a forum for talking politics.

Posting the same graphs 100's of times is not actually talking politics.

01-18-2017 , 09:04 AM

#82

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dereds

Posting the same graphs 100's of times is not actually talking politics.

Nor is all the name calling, forum noise etc. Everyone who makes the effort to stick to the rules to keep it about talking politics (along with the PC rule) is welcome and that include TS as much as anyone else.

01-18-2017 , 09:04 AM

#83

13ball

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Originally Posted by dereds

What would wookie needing to defend himself mean? Oh and **** off.

In this case Wookie is following the rules to the letter. But Tooth's fanboys demand an exception and whine about how unfair Wookie was. Kind of telling that they want affirmative action for white nationalists.

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01-18-2017 , 09:16 AM

#84

dereds

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

Right but you are attempting to do stuff about the name calling while you are eager to welcome back someone responsible for increasing the noise to signal ratio. It's your forum and you get to run it as you want like but wanting TS back and hoping to improve the signal/noise ratio conflict.

Now I generally think it's poor form of me to discuss someone who has no right of reply so I'm dropping this line, not my circus...

01-18-2017 , 09:19 AM

#85

mongidig

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 13ball

So if the rules said Wookie should jump off a bridge he should do it?

It sounds like Wookie would have made a great nazi! "He's just following orders"

01-18-2017 , 09:20 AM

#86

dereds

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man you're ****ing stupid

01-18-2017 , 09:22 AM

#87

chezlaw

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dereds

They may conflict but I don't want to improve the signal/noise ratio by banning anybody.

That's a general overriding principle and nothing to do with TS in particular.

01-18-2017 , 09:27 AM

#88

mongidig

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Originally Posted by dereds

He sais after he discusses someone who has no right of reply.

Who's stupid?

01-18-2017 , 10:13 AM

#89

13ball

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People who compare getting banned from an online forum to Nazi atrocities.

01-18-2017 , 10:28 AM

#90

mongidig

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 13ball

People who compare getting banned from an online forum to Nazi atrocities.

I've tood you a million times, don't exagerate!

01-18-2017 , 11:11 AM

#91

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chezlaw

LOL chezlaw is sad that his attempt to create a Stormfront 7.0 lost its most racist high volume poster almost immediately.

01-18-2017 , 11:15 AM

#92

jalfrezi

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Lol but pretty harsh on a well meaning chezza

01-18-2017 , 11:21 AM

#93

wil318466

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Stormfront 7.0.

Wow.

01-18-2017 , 11:24 AM

#94

jalfrezi

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Wils whetting his whistle at the mere thought of such a thing.

01-18-2017 , 11:25 AM

#95

wil318466

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You do realize that I'm not white, right? You also realize that TS isn't white, right? Yet you call him a white supremacist.

I question the intelligence of people who say things like this.

01-18-2017 , 11:27 AM

#96

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

LOL chezlaw is sad that his attempt to create a Stormfront 7.0 lost its most racist high volume poster almost immediately.

First the "Britain First!" guy and now TS. Place is running dangerously low on hateful bigots.

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Originally Posted by wil318466

You do realize that I'm not white, right? You also realize that TS isn't white, right? Yet you call him a white supremacist.

I question the intelligence of people who say things like this.

I question the intelligence of minorities who latch onto white supremacists. Don't think you've thought that move through all the way.

01-18-2017 , 11:47 AM

#97

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Originally Posted by wil318466

You do realize that I'm not white, right? You also realize that TS isn't white, right? Yet you call him a white supremacist.

I question the intelligence of people who say things like this.

I question the common sense of people who believe everything others claim to be on the interwebs.

01-18-2017 , 12:10 PM

#98

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

I question the intelligence of minorities who latch onto white supremacists. Don't think you've thought that move through all the way.

I question the intelligence of minorities who latch on AND DON'T GET PAID for it.

There's a huge low entry market for this stuff, Dinesh D'Souza, David Clarke, those dudes are set for life. Doing it for free to an audience of dozens is just wasteful.

01-18-2017 , 12:11 PM

#99

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I'd rather see him post here and have his ideas confronted here, than see other posters give free publicity to bad fronts elsewhere.

01-18-2017 , 12:13 PM

#100

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 5ive

If you people want to get the most bang for your keystroke, you could go cosign all the posts in this thread:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/21...drool-1648094/

I decided to end the game on Martin Luther the King's day.

There is only 1 short stormfront quote and 1 short faithandheritage quote. Everything else is a direct Toothsayer or Truthsayer quote, most being the former. Yeah.

I know, it was beautiful in its own way.

For the record, all my posts were Toothsayer quotes, except where I clearly broke character and posted as me.

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