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05-14-2017 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
The alt-right's use of "virtue signaling" is increasing at a geometric rate. I guess it now includes anything short of praise for right wing politics lol, because the guy just said it was boring for ****'s sake.
lol, no, he said it was a boring white guy. im sure u can see the difference. had he simply said it was boring, there would have been no virtue signaling
05-14-2017 , 07:38 PM
I really dont care enough to prove you wrong, if you got something from what he was saying, good for you. In general, he mostly just said:
1. why don't xyz minority group like this societal rule???
2. societal rule makes sense cause if we dont have then people will do ANYTHING
3. you cant argue with that cause it makes too much sense
4. total ignorance of any counter point
5. repeat 3+4 adnauseum
6. declare victory without considering counter points

'People' make arguments this way about man+woman marriage, drug war, terrorists versus SOLDIERS, all the standard bland ass culture war arguments. If you don't know what the real difference between a terrorist and a soldier is, then I'm wasting my time trying to debunk someone who claims society is right about everything without any consideration of the criticisms of their arguments. See MGTOW, that Bald guy that is still preaching objectivitism every day, every foxnews talking point ever, and many many others.
05-14-2017 , 07:56 PM
Stefan Molyneux, couldn't remember his name for some reason.
05-14-2017 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
I can't get enough of Jordan Peterson. I'm not a religious person but he has really changed the way I view religion.
Yep.

As an atheist I used to scoff at the idiocy of religious belief. Now I am not so sure. I am not positive yet that religion is a "good" thing or a "bad" thing, but I question if atheism is good for the masses.

My views have changed because I simply did not like what I was seeing, the results were.... not exactly what I wanted. I hoped for everyone to be Richard Dawkin-ish, but we wound up with a bunch of arrogant douchebags (like myself).

I've come to realize how important family and the family unit really is. Religion seems to provide quite a lot of that, even though it brings a lot of baggage with it.

Furthermore, I think religion brings a sense of community and fills social gaps I think need to be addressed.

Again, I am unsure where I stand, overall, on this topic. What I do know is that I'm much more willing to discuss the benefits of religion instead of just laughing at it and calling religious people morons.

Kind of.
05-14-2017 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by romdom
keep listening its pretty interesting, why is his being a "white guy" relevant? thats a weird thing to say.
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Originally Posted by Marn
virtue signalling
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Originally Posted by Marn
You didn't listen to jack ****, you're here just to show your dismissal of the 'wrong ideas' i.e. virtue signaling. If you did listen to it, then how about discussing the content?
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Originally Posted by romdom
lol, no, he said it was a boring white guy. im sure u can see the difference. had he simply said it was boring, there would have been no virtue signaling
Stop race hustling, guys.
05-14-2017 , 09:59 PM
Marn is 100% correct.
05-15-2017 , 08:41 AM
Does he talk about how Frozen is feminazi propaganda teaching litle girls they dont need no man?

im boycotting blizzard games cuz they let hordes kek at girls with no disciplinary actions
05-15-2017 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by romdom
lol, no, he said it was a boring white guy. im sure u can see the difference. had he simply said it was boring, there would have been no virtue signaling
Uh, I don't need to be educated by the likes of you, like I said, that makes no ****ing sense. What virtue is being signaled? Vision?

What you mean is that he's being anti-white. You're so ****ing illiterate you can't even keep your own ****ing jargon straight. Incredible.
05-15-2017 , 12:43 PM
I think this hit a cord with FlyWf, all he does nowadays is virtue signal, when was the last time he had an honest discussion with anyone?

He clings to his false sense of self righteousness to justify him being his deplorable true self towards those who he perceives 'have the wrong ideas'.

Don't be fooled, this person is a pathetic individual who would lose a lot of his perceived self worth if his ideological system came crashing down on him. He will of course not let that happen and in the process he will become ever more irrational and vile when defending his beliefs and behaviour.

Last edited by Marn; 05-15-2017 at 01:11 PM.
05-15-2017 , 01:03 PM
But but, they are on the right side of history. Liberals have always made society better! They are the moral ones!

Lol.
05-15-2017 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Uh, I don't need to be educated by the likes of you, like I said, that makes no ****ing sense. What virtue is being signaled? Vision?

What you mean is that he's being anti-white. You're so ****ing illiterate you can't even keep your own ****ing jargon straight. Incredible.
u need to be educated by someone, hilarious to call me illiterate, u ****ing clown. i never even said he was "virtue signaling", marn did, then i explained to u what marn was saying. but what importance do facts have?

So what youre saying, is that being "anti white" is all to the good? seems like yeah, fantastic!

Last edited by romdom; 05-15-2017 at 01:19 PM. Reason: you curse alot, must mean ur cool!!!
05-15-2017 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Marn
I think this hit a cord with FlyWf, all he does nowadays is virtue signal, when was the last time he had an honest discussion with anyone?

He clings to his false sense of self righteousness to justify him being his deplorable true self towards those who he perceives 'have the wrong ideas'.

Don't be fooled, this person is a pathetic individual who would lose a lot of his perceived self worth if his ideological system came crashing down on him. He will of course not let that happen and in the process he will become ever more irrational and vile when defending his beliefs and behaviour.
andddd this, if i were literate i would have written exactly the same wordz!

fly's prob worried about his furry cosplay group finding out he wasnt white knighting hard enough on the internets so he just has to post rude, profanity laden attacks to keep his quota. la Resistance!!!
05-15-2017 , 01:30 PM
05-15-2017 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
did u actually watch that? i tried, then checked some other videos, such as his "pewdepie is a nazi" one on his channel.... this guy is onto something....

His explanation of virtue signaling was so disingenueous i dont even know where to start. I hope he's just dumb and not willfully dishonest. picked up a sweet new liberal thingy tho, "neoreactionary buzzwords". Thats def not a made up thing.
05-15-2017 , 01:56 PM
Frozen served a political purpose: to demonstrate that a woman did not need a man to be successful. Anything written to serve a political purpose (rather than to explore and create) is propaganda, not art.

Frozen was propaganda, pure and simple. Beauty and the Beast (the animated version) was not.
05-15-2017 , 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by romdom
did u actually watch that? i tried, then checked some other videos, such as his "pewdepie is a nazi" one on his channel.... this guy is onto something....

His explanation of virtue signaling was so disingenueous i dont even know where to start. I hope he's just dumb and not willfully dishonest. picked up a sweet new liberal thingy tho, "neoreactionary buzzwords". Thats def not a made up thing.
I wish the noereactionary movement was a made up thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

Although I will say I would only be mildly surprised if the whole thing turns out to be a hoax perpetrated by Thomas Pynchon.
05-15-2017 , 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
I wish the noereactionary movement was a made up thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment
ha, learn something every day. KEK seems cooler. had never heard of said movement, but i would still say that calling virtue signaling a neoreactionary buzzword might be a stretch. is fake news a neoreactionary buzzword? or i guess nonreactionary buzzword...wtf is happening.
05-15-2017 , 02:17 PM
I think his point that "virtue signaling" is a red herring is pretty strong. So someone is "signalling" their "virtue"--they can still be right. It's irrelevant.
05-15-2017 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
I wish the noereactionary movement was a made up thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

Although I will say I would only be mildly surprised if the whole thing turns out to be a hoax perpetrated by Thomas Pynchon.
There is absolutely some truth to it. Look at how many of you leftist sheep buy into ideas which are so completely laughable. Combined with virtue signalling and social media there is no telling what kind of damage you can do.

You literally have convinced people that a person's gender is dependent on their state of mind and that equality of outcome is more important than equality of opportunity. Freedom or equality. Pick one, you can't have both.

The future of western Civilization is at stake and if you people win all is lost. I only wish I was kidding.
05-15-2017 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
I think his point that "virtue signaling" is a red herring is pretty strong. So someone is "signalling" their "virtue"--they can still be right. It's irrelevant.
guy uses straw men to build a buncha red herrings.

i dont use the term, but i understand what it means. its that some people say things in order to gain social justice points with their friends.

So when dude posts "sounds like a boring white guy", he is either racist, or he is trying to show how progressive he is. because, u know, all white people are oppressive racists and say the same things, or theyre just all so boring and lame no one should listen to those white idiots.

why not just say boring? in calling him a boring white guy, is the implication that hes racist and incapable of productive ideas?

i can't watch the view because angry black women, thats me nazi signaling.
05-15-2017 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by romdom
guy uses straw men to build a buncha red herrings.

i dont use the term, but i understand what it means. its that some people say things in order to gain social justice points with their friends.
Yes, and how do you know someone is saying things to earn "social justice points"? Doesn't that imply that they don't actually believe what they say? How do you know that? Aren't the alt-right virtue-signaling about free speech? Isn't calling someone out for "virtue signaling" an act of virtue signaling itself?

It's just a dumb term that doesn't really mean anything.

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So when dude posts "sounds like a boring white guy", he is either racist
This is interesting, because there are people who post here who complain about "black culture" and who deny that any racism still exists in society, going so far as to dismiss empirical evidence. And those people complain that when they get called "racist" that liberals are being too sensitive and unfair.

But now just saying white in a description is evidence of racism?

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or he is trying to show how progressive he is. because, u know, all white people are oppressive racists and say the same things, or theyre just all so boring and lame no one should listen to those white idiots.
So, he's pretending to be racist? That's the part that makes no sense to me.

Anyway, this is just my boring white opinion.
05-15-2017 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
You literally have convinced people that a person's gender is dependent on their state of mind
I must've been really drunk when I did that. The point about liberals is that we don't give a ****. Why would I care if somebody with male genitals says they are a woman? I find it bizarre that people actually get upset about it.

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and that equality of outcome is more important than equality of opportunity.
Yeah, no one believes this. It's just what you tell yourself as you continue to support racist policies.

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The future of western Civilization is at stake and if you people win all is lost. I only wish I was kidding.
Western civilization is going to be fine--better than it's ever been. Liberals are going to drag conservatives kicking and screaming into the future like we always have.
05-15-2017 , 05:06 PM
Oh, absolutely not. You're in for a dose of reality.
05-15-2017 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball



This is interesting, because there are people who post here who complain about "black culture" and who deny that any racism still exists in society, going so far as to dismiss empirical evidence. And those people complain that when they get called "racist" that liberals are being too sensitive and unfair.

But now just saying white in a description is evidence of racism?


So, he's pretending to be racist? That's the part that makes no sense to me.

Anyway, this is just my boring white opinion.
Iv never seen anyone deny that racism still exists in real life or on these forums.

I do think that liberals at times can be too sensitive sometimes to the point where it actually weakens the left.
Actually now I think about it the right can be guilty of that as well but no where near to the same degree.
05-15-2017 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 13ball
Yes, and how do you know someone is saying things to earn "social justice points"? Doesn't that imply that they don't actually believe what they say? How do you know that? Aren't the alt-right virtue-signaling about free speech? Isn't calling someone out for "virtue signaling" an act of virtue signaling itself?

It's just a dumb term that doesn't really mean anything.



This is interesting, because there are people who post here who complain about "black culture" and who deny that any racism still exists in society, going so far as to dismiss empirical evidence. And those people complain that when they get called "racist" that liberals are being too sensitive and unfair.

But now just saying white in a description is evidence of racism?



So, he's pretending to be racist? That's the part that makes no sense to me.

Anyway, this is just my boring white opinion.
seems like youre purposefully being obtuse.

all i was saying was, there's no point in singling out and dismissing someone because you listened for 30 minutes and decided he was just another "boring white guy" the descriptor is completely unnecessary in this case.

inserting "white" into the response was that posters way of saying SOMETHING. his clarification was that he meant nothing of his skin color "but the location of his cultural perspective." and thus discounted it out of hand. so i'm saying, thats either racist/xenophobic/ideaphobic (future neoreactionary buzzword imo), or hes just trying to show how onboard team justice he is. Guess it could be both.

other boring white opinion. this forum makes me laugh all the way up my sleeve.

      
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