Some folks say that the Shabbat is not on Saturday. I hear what your saying though, I simply found it interesting that you used the term G_d. It seems that you still have a respect for your religion, from what I understand, Jews use the word G_d.



Maybe I should have rephrased my question,

I'm wondering if any folks would have the view that Jesus was a criminal, or a liar, or that Jesus mistreated others?

You want me to invent knowledge out of thin air?

I know about Jesus because I grew up as a Catholic in the U.S. and, maybe because of that was interested enough to have seen/read other information about his life through channels other than the church.

The only info I know about Muslims and Mohammad is mostly slanderous type stuff from talk radio and crappy news outlets in the U.S. This info I assume I can safely ignore due to the sources.

Wow, even the JEWISH holy warriors?! You don't say.

I don't believe in the torah, new testament, Koran - not without corroboration. They were all written after the fact based on stories of believers, not historians.

Mohammed seems to have been a real person who was a merchant and turned into a successful military leader and seems to have taken part in things like:

"AG 945, indiction VII: On Friday, 4 February, [i.e., 634 CE / Dhul Qa‘dah 12 AH] at the ninth hour, there was a battle between the Romans and the Arabs of Mụhammad [Syr. tayyāyē d-Ṃhmt] in Palestine twelve miles east of Gaza. The Romans fled, leaving behind the patrician YRDN (Syr. BRYRDN), whom the Arabs killed. Some 4000 poor villagers of Palestine were killed there, Christians, Jews and Samaritans. The Arabs ravaged the whole region."

Jews did similar things, Christians did similar things, and Buddhists have done similar things - but Jesus or Buddha didn't personally take part in anything like that.

I respect Muslims too. I'm not going to MS Paint Muhammad.

I wrote a treatise on black people? So you think I'm a racist?

lol. That one always cracks me up. You people come up with dumb **** just for the sake of it.

Do you respect the right to free speech?

Pick one.

thekid,

That's not necessarily negative. I mean killing people is not nice, but it was war and it was a long time ago. A Muslim could be proud, like Muhammad kicked ass! Mecedonians are proud of Alexander aren't they?

It can be both. You can paint Muhammad if you want, and it won't even bother me. But even if it did, respecting free speech hardly implies supporting what is said. It's the opposite really, it means supporting the right to speech that you find offensive.

I do not respect the criminalizing of blasphemy at all. In my book using such exploitive measures to control other people is a clear sign of weak faith and really old-school politics more than religion. Some religion sects are like the hipsters of authoritarian politics, fearmongered before it was cool, before it existed as a term. Using the unimaginable fear of infinity to get maximum exploitation out of the fear of suffering. Good thing religion also teaches that love conquers fear and empathy conquers enmity. Religion actually has the answers to a lot of it's own problems and that puts the political and institutional church on it's head in an age where they cannot control information, and maybe out of existence.

Creating images of Mohammed is necessary for respecting free speech? Are you high?

My intent was not to insult Jews, rather to praise them.

Many Muslims don't respect the right to free speech when it comes to that in particular.

In bet's case, he was saying it wouldn't offend him in particular, which isn't what I was getting at.

He said he wouldn't create an image of Mohammed because he wouldn't want to upset Muslims. Nothing about that implies a lack of respect for free speech.

That's true. I typed it pretty quickly I should have taken my time to differentiate. I meant how it would be perceived by Muslims, which wouldn't be good because it's in some stupid book.

Bump!

I'm not answering you again, Trolly. I already did. If you don't want to read it that's your choice.

Why you would say you don't want to read a wall of text (which it wasn't) and then want me to answer you in a different way is beyond me. You can keep asking, but I'm not answering it again.

Basically just take his recent performance and swap out "religious people" with "black people" (or "poor people", take your pick). Broad-brush open contempt that he gets called on, then he tries to backpedal but only manages to dig himself in deeper. And somehow it's everybody else who is out of line, never wil with his blatant, unapologetic prejudice.

Actually not really. But you aren't too bright, so.

Wil making a run for title contention.

wil, you think Serena Williams celebrates gang culture because she did a 2 second celebration dance. When your posts are indistinguishable from a Hannity segment it's time to reevaluate your positions.

Lol you can have the right to draw Mohammed in a tutu giving a blowjob to thekid345 with Jesus licking his ballsack from behind. But that doesn't mean you can't also say "you know what, I don't really gain anything and it would just offend a bunch of people, so maybe I won't."

This is pretty funny if he's trolling.

At least he says ******ed things we can all talk about and learn about what not to say, instead of one-liners that contribute zilch to the forum, even this particular forum in all of its unchainedness.

I explained thoroughly my thoughts on Serena Williams. You're not changing my mind about it. If you think it's racist that I think Serena Williams is disgusting, then so be it.