Other than Wil, Deuces, Proph, Johnny, NoQuarter and OMG Chez, Who are the Bad P/PU Posters? - Page 849 - Politics version 7.0 -- Two Plus Two Poker Forums

If we can just imagine harder, then, finally, AC will make sense!

Politics is by definition a field that deals almost exclusively in the real world. Speculative fiction is found under a totally different classification of the Dewey Decimal System.

11-24-2014 , 12:48 AM

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JayTeeMe

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

What are some comparable subjects you think we should be talking about right now? I think your point is good and correct, but at the same time I think real world politics is boring as **** at the moment unless you get a hard on talking about rep vs. dem stuff.

While the real world is certainly to blame for most of the problem, things like Food Deserts can be created on any given day.

Seems like we used to have hypothetical threads/tangents where we could discuss the philosophy and ethics behind our political beliefs and thoughts.

Like all of my politarding for the last year has been reduced to getting my Two Minutes Hate from the Law and Order thread.

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Originally Posted by Nichlemn

Whatever you may think of about ACists, at least they allowed for discussion on a slow news day. Personally I don't really like discussing news, most of means **** all anyway. Political philosophy and ethics are a lot more interesting IMO.

Totally agree with the bolded. Unfortunately, for the last couple of years every time you personally have tried to start a thread or tangent like that you've got "God you are so ****ing stupid. Try reading a ****ing book!!"

11-24-2014 , 01:20 AM

#21203

chezlaw

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Originally Posted by zikzak

If we can just imagine harder, then, finally, AC will make sense!

It already makes sense, no imagination required for that.

At least you have had the honesty to make fairly clear your input is aimed at disrupting discussion because you don't want the discussion.

11-24-2014 , 02:11 AM

#21204

BrianTheMick2

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

It already makes sense, no imagination required for that.

At least you have had the honesty to make fairly clear your input is aimed at disrupting discussion because you don't want the discussion.

Isn't the main argument against AC that I'd win and the rest of you would whine and decide that it wasn't a good idea and gang up to make laws to control my power?

(not necessarily me, of course.)

11-24-2014 , 03:36 AM

#21205

chezlaw

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Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2

Isn't the main argument against AC that I'd win and the rest of you would whine and decide that it wasn't a good idea and gang up to make laws to control my power?

(not necessarily me, of course.)

Some dynamic equilibrium is quite possible just like for democracy. The instability of AC is the argument I put to ACers but even if true it doesn't mean AC can't persist for a long time and stable or not (and good idea or not) it still makes sense. Democracy may well not be stable either.

Obviously zigzag could just mean it's a bad idea to do it, that's a perfectly reasonable argument to make (and I'd agree) but that's no reason not to have the argument.

11-24-2014 , 05:01 AM

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Nichlemn

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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe

That's pretty much just Fly. The rest is usually "The world is like, complicated man, QED".

11-24-2014 , 05:06 AM

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Anais

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"Which fantasy government form would be totes awesome if we lived in magical unicorn land" is as enthralling a thread as a "which supermodel would you super like to have sex with" thread

And every bit as relevant to politics as the latter

11-24-2014 , 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Anais

But less relevant than "what pseudonymous person on the internet is totally a racist?" and "Here's some clickbaity anecdote about an outlier event, let's use it to sustain confirmation bias!"

11-24-2014 , 07:13 AM

#21209

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Originally Posted by Anais

"Which fantasy government form would be totes awesome if we lived in magical unicorn land" is as enthralling a thread as a "which supermodel would you super like to have sex with" thread

Well if the thread doesn't interest you just don't click on it. Hopefully it's accurately titled.

11-24-2014 , 11:47 AM

#21210

AsianNit

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianTheMick2

Isn't the main argument against AC that I'd win and the rest of you would whine and decide that it wasn't a good idea and gang up to make laws to control my power?

(not necessarily me, of course.)

My arguments against AC probably begin with a refusal to accept the notion of self-ownership.

11-24-2014 , 11:48 AM

#21211

AsianNit

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Originally Posted by Anais

"Which fantasy government form would be totes awesome if we lived in magical unicorn land" is as enthralling a thread as a "which supermodel would you super like to have sex with" thread

The latter thread would be significantly more enthralling if it had sufficient pics.

11-24-2014 , 11:50 AM

#21212

AlexM

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Originally Posted by AsianNit

My arguments against AC probably begin with a refusal to accept the notion of self-ownership.

So, you believe people are owned by society or government?

11-24-2014 , 12:10 PM

#21213

MrWookie

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Originally Posted by chezlaw

It already makes sense, no imagination required for that.

At least you have had the honesty to make fairly clear your input is aimed at disrupting discussion because you don't want the discussion.

If you want to wax poetic about the wonderful wonders of AC land and the evil statists who stop us from getting there, there's already a thread here on the subject, or you're welcome to start one in Alta. Doing so in the Bad Posters thread makes you a pretty Bad Poster.

11-24-2014 , 12:20 PM

#21214

AsianNit

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Originally Posted by AlexM

So, you believe people are owned by society or government?

I believe people are unowned entities.

11-24-2014 , 12:24 PM

#21215

chezlaw

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Originally Posted by MrWookie

I don't believe in the wonderful wonders of ACland so I never wax poetical about it and I'm very much an 'evil statist'.

It's small beer compared to your other recent effort in this thread but you should seriously consider yourself when deciding who you think is a bad poster.

11-24-2014 , 12:28 PM

#21216

AlexM

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Originally Posted by AsianNit

I believe people are unowned entities.

Yes, and that's code for people being owned by society/government.

11-24-2014 , 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexM

Yes, and that's code for people being owned by society/government.

He cracked the code, guys!

The concept of "ownership" can only apply in societies anyway. You "own" things only if other people agree that you own them.

11-24-2014 , 01:30 PM

#21218

chezlaw

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Originally Posted by 13ball

He cracked the code, guys!

The concept of "ownership" can only apply in societies anyway. You "own" things only if other people agree that you own them.

I think wookie would like us bad posters to discuss this somewhere else.

He even has a point which stands apart from the rest of his post.

11-24-2014 , 01:35 PM

#21219

13ball

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Meh. His powers are useless here. Do what you want.

11-24-2014 , 01:46 PM

#21220

chezlaw

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Originally Posted by 13ball

Meh. His powers are useless here. Do what you want.

His powers are irrelevant but he actually had a point.

11-24-2014 , 01:50 PM

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Dids

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ITT basically stupid people continue to object to being told they're stupid after they post very stupid things.

Really sucks when somebody opens a door and ruins your echo chamber huh?

11-24-2014 , 02:04 PM

#21222

FoldnDark

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Sounds about right.

11-24-2014 , 02:10 PM

#21223

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Originally Posted by Dids

ITT basically stupid people continue to object to being told they're stupid after they post very stupid things.

Really sucks when somebody opens a door and ruins your echo chamber huh?

Tell us more about how terrible echo chambers are Didsy.

You're as hypocritical as you are utterly repugnant.