AlexM must have decided he got all the attention he could muster from his slavery apology routine after he didn't get a lot of bites on his "taking property from the slaveowners and making them poor is as bad as castrating them" comment, decided to turn to rape apology to start his "why is everyone picking on me" cycle all over again.

Damn, I'll take that bet. Better than getting dealt quads!

Yeah, I'd take that bet too.

Maybe a little, but mostly I simply detest dog piles when people don't have solid evidence and even when they do, I'm not thrilled with them. This has been a very consistent theme in my posting. Obviously most people love a good dog pile though, so being against them makes me a bad poster. Oh noes, my soul is crushed.

Yes, the accusations don't look good for Cosby, but jumping on the dog pile is a sad and terrible display of humanity.

Yeah, saying mean things one the internet about a guy accused of rape by multiple people -- especially if lots of other people are saying mean things, too -- is just about the worst thing in the world.

Dog piling is certainly not a notable accomplishment. Cosby's case is tough, because, while he may never see a day in court, the sheer volume of claims against him makes presuming his innocence hard to rationalize. It does appear he has lost his career because of it and that is a worst consequence than a dog pile.

There's also absolutely nothing to be learned from joining a dog pile and rather a lot to be learned from opposing one.

What have you learned in fighting the good fight on behalf of Cosby?

Alex, what about those of us who have hated Cosby since before it was cool? Do we get dispensation from your dog-pile critique, or am I obligated to support him now for propriety's sake?

What sort of solid evidence would you need to move you from detesting a dog pile on Cosby to merely being not thrilled?

I learned that champstark is keen to make some sucker's bets.

It might depend on if Alex thinks you are some sort of reverse racist who didn't think Bill Cosby was "black enough".

It would be enough evidence already if it weren't concerning a sucessful and respected black man raping white women. That's just too convenient to the white supremacist narrative to take at face value.

There's always taking the high ground. I understand though that that's a foreign concept to 2+2ers.

Man, you are such a thoughtful guy to reject the white supremacist narrative and immediately latch on to the "women always lie about rape" narrative.

Why are we pretending there's anything motivating Alex beyond a desire for attention. There's no point in noting his logical inconsistencies, those are features, not bugs.

Bahbahmickey is the dumbest poster on this forum AINEC. Pick literally any subject he writes on, the logic will range from incoherent to self-contradictory and he'll be wrong on the merits like 90-95% of the time.

I dunno man, negs is pretty ****ing stupid.

bahbah was the negs of the Obamacare thread before negs was.

He's far from the worst poster, but man do I think microbet makes the forum a lot worse by trying to play the middle even when flagrant racists are beebopin' and skatin' around. Some people you just don't need to play nice with.

You could always not say anything instead of posting apologetics for a possible serial rapist.

Then you aren't dog piling, and aren't being a ****ing idiot

He's 80 years old and made a billion dollars from comedy, yeah he's been punished enough

You know how all the right wing idiots on TV and radio come up with little slogans or phrases and repeat them over?

This doesn't work any better.

When someone comments on how some accusations may not be well founded or something mean was said, they are in no way saying it's just about the worst thing in the world. They are in no way saying that it's worse than whateverit is someone is accused of. That's true regardless of how many times people say something like "wa wa wa he got his fee fees hurt, cause something mean was said on the internet."

Amazing thing is, I think you, Dids, anais, and Fly are like at least 30 years old.

That said, Cosby is a rapist bastard, a huge jackass, and I thought people have known this for years.

You're probably not the worst poster, but I thought you were pretty much an ahole before I ever heard you say anything about social justice. You're such an authoritarian I had thought you were a right winger.

I can't believe you really think the forum is better if you just hate on anyone who says anything you think is offensive. Not only is it counterproductive, as I've said, driving people further from your position, what's your great alternative? Either post after post of people saying "yeah, this situation is horrible" or just opportunities to call people sacks of ****? Oh yeah, that sounds like a really interesting discussion.

Well no. If the accusation are true and proven in front of a jury, he should be locked up in prison. Doesn't look like that is very likely. So people who are comfortable certainly declaring his guilt with the information available must settle for internet dog-piles and that fact his career appears over. My firm belief in the presumption of innocence only allows me to speculate that the volume of accusation makes guilt seem more likely than not. I have no qualms about leaving uncertainty about it for matter of principle.