I think its incredible that some people still believe in the sanctity of marriage these days, let alone oppose gay marriage.
A good proportion of those self proclaimed religious folk never seem to worry about the sanctity of their own marriage when it falls apart.
I think religion is just something they use to try to justify their homophobia.
And they never seem to mind insulting other people by insisting that govt take their gods instructions into account when making decisions.

It's the rest of society that should really be pulling govt's fingers out of those sanctified pies imo by insisting that no religion should influence decision making.

What about someone believing people shouldn't marry rocks, sheep or multiple partners and happens to include same-sex partners on their list for similar reasons?

Understood, and somewhat agree, but enough is enough. Too many people just play nice nice and don't say anything. Personally I'm sick of it.

If you don't think gay people have the right to marry, something is wrong with you. If it's due to your holy book, then something is even more wrong with you.

They are humans. They are the same as everyone else, they just like something different sexually. Get over it. Like Hue said, next topic.

If you don't think people should be able to marry multiple people and/or their siblings, is there something wrong with you? If you do, is there something wrong with you?

(Fyi, I'm fine with polygamy, incest still creeps me out though.)

This is more interesting, imo it's completely fine as long as they don't have kids but I could possibly have my mind changed on either parts of that opinion

List some reasons. I can't think of a reason grouping these things together with gay marriage that wouldn't make me roll my eyes

Anyone who opposes polygamy is just as bad as someone opposing gay marriage, but rocks and animals is just dumb. Marriage is about family, and rocks and animals simply don't apply. Nobody's letting you take your pet to the hospital either way, and no one's stopping you from taking your rock. The key and obvious place to draw the line is the same as a lot of things. Consenting adults.

I don't think our opinions/feelings really matter. If we decide adults should be given equal rights, and we have, then we should let them marry. It's gross for me to think of a brother/sister together sexually (but, surprisingly not two sisters), and similarly it's gross for me to accidentally click on male gay porn (unsurprisingly, not female), but I respect them all as human beings and as consenting adults I believe they should be able to make their own decisions, including marriage.

I don't know if this post is agreeing with mine, or disagreeing with the kids part

Breeding is not the only problem with incest. The power differential is possibly more important. It's too easy for an older male to manipulate a female child (or male for that matter) such that they might be willing at 18, but is such a person really capable of consent? Cousins shouldn't be a problem, but anything closer than that should be out.

Kids are a different subject. I'm not sure what to make of it really. Hard to tell two consenting adults they can't make a baby, but if there are good odds it will be deformed then perhaps so. They could always adopt or go the surrogate route.

Germany is dealing with this right now. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ttee-says.html

is this different from jj's suggestion about op moderated threads?

I think it's the same, maybe evolved a bit. Ask jj.

Hadn't thought about that. Still seems like an adult is and adult is an adult. If there is statutory stuff going on before adulthood, it's another subject. Weird though how we define it in the US. We had an exchange student from Switzerland who lived with us when she was 16. She was in a serious relationship with her 35 year-old tennis coach before she came over, and they're married now. Had their first kid last year. It's funny because she would flirt with me and I was all uncomfortable about it because I was so much older, like 21.

Also, when I lived in Denmark, my 14 year-old host brother would have his girlfriend stay the night. Parents were totally fine with it. I couldn't believe it.

16 is legal in most of the U.S. except those prudish West Coast states.

My mother is an odd combination, very liberal and very religious. On the far left side of every issue except gay rights and abortion.

Wow what a arrogant douche bag you are. Why give a long stupid answer if the subject matter stopped being interesting to you since 2011?
What is a non hateful reason to be against gay marriage?

You dont seem very bright SmokeyJ.

Haha that PU tards thread really got to you huh Johny. Sorry I find homophobes boring, sorry you find such a short answer long. Re: non-hateful reasons, how about you tell me why you're against gay marriage and I'll tell you how hateful it is. I'll tell you right now the bore-rating will be at least 8/10

Jesus Christ, you think its o.k. to **** your sister? Wtf is wrong with you SmokeyJ?

You said that sometimes people come up with non hateful reasons to be against gay marriage, so I ask again what is a non hateful reason to be against gay marriage?

There really aren't any.

That's sort of the point, and also why SmokeyJ implied the topic is boring.

It's what its currently evolved into. I'd prefer to see more threads like AsianNits where its special rules that will be enforced ("No talking about racism") rather than its people that aren't allowed to contribute, but this might be an interesting way to go too.

Edit: Green again! Green again!

That's not really an odd combination. I know a decent number of anti-war, anti-abortion Catholics who fit that description.

My step mother is among the smartest people I know. Grew up poor as dirt, turned herself into a pHD president of a Catholic university. She can read a book in a few hours and believes in a man in the sky. My calculus professor was religious. There are countless examples of highly intelligent people who believe what I consider nutty things. Take this forum....

It is kind of astonishing what people do when they believe they have 'super' authority to mind other people's business and intrude on other people's personal relationships. Must of forgotten what they learned in kindergarten about respect and sharing.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...40226?irpc=932

GTFO of my thread. Your homophobic, trolling ass is not welcome here.