Are you sick of the same boring sounds inside the echo chamber known as PU?

Do you have ideas that you want to share without others misconstruing them, either deliberately or due to their intellectual struggles?

Do you wish to identify and shame those who fear diversity of thought?

This is the place for you.

RULES:

1. The following posters are banned due to their ongoing love affair with echo chambers, their bigotry, and/or their inability to take mature approaches to complex subject matter. List of Shame and Disgrace (LoSD) includes:

Drugsarebad
Goofyballer
FlyWf
Low Key/Anais/Gizmo/sockpuppets
Dids
SenorKeeed
MrWookie
Any/all "Trolly"
Paul D
Jmakin

2. I reserve the right to remove and add anyone from/to the LoSD.

3. Those who participate ITT must ignore any/all attempts by those on the LoSD to discuss this thread itself or anything being discussed ITT. What is discussed in here stays in here, and outsider LoSDs will not be engaged about it.

3. Anyone NOT on the LoSD can feel free to drop by and mercilessly ridicule anyone who IS on it. It's time for there to be a place strictly for the forum's outsiders and misfits to unite and berate.

4. Anyone NOT on the list is exempt from ridicule ITT. Sure, posters' ideas can be questioned or even mildly mocked, but mostly this is a place for clarification and understanding.

5. I reserve the right to use this slot for a new rule at some later point.

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The primary purpose is to flesh out political ideas without having to go in the same boring circle caused by those who aggressively dislike alternative perspectives.

Yes, and threads like this are a big part of it. "Please join me in mocking posters I don't like. Oh and by the way they won't be able to fight back."

Doesn't it seem ironic to create a thread that purports to champion "thought diversity" and then explicitly exclude all the posters whose thoughts are too diverse for you to handle?

Feel free to add me to your list.

You know better than this.

I want posters capable of taking fresh looks at subjects, not bogging **** down with the same tired retorts and labeling. It's tiresome.

Going to be interesting where this goes.

I feel like everyone uses the "I want to discuss Y but group X isn't letting me".

And if that's the case why aren't there threads like "let's discuss Y without group X" instead of just "let's discuss how crappy X is".

Crappiness of X is only part of what is to go down ITT. The primary function is to explore ideas without getting lost in the muck.

So which is it? Do you want to "flesh out political ideas" with top-notch posters who meet your standards, or do you want to name names and rag on posters who don't meet those standards? If it's the former, your thread is badly mis-titled.
I don't think you can pretend to take the high road here when you started by labeling specific posters as "droolers".

Anyway, I look forward to seeing what fresh topics you come up with that can flourish in this thread but would otherwise be shat upon by the droolers.

The primary purpose of this thread is to see...

Less important is the "fire w/ fire" approach for those typically targeted by team #groupthink. This is their corner of the forum to vent, be heard, pass judgement, etc.

It is perfectly ironic and much better executed than the very first thread, posted yesterday, designed to exclude other posters with the intention of criticizing them free from facing direct response. You may want to get the order and nature of events straight as this thread is a response.

The people you want to bitch at have the first action, this thread is the first and, IMO, only necessary response. No other thread is needed to highlight the ignorance and unfunniness of 'going there' in the first place.

Thought diversity is far more important than any idea the posters on DiB's list have ever offered in this forum that I am aware of. I say we talk about that.

Your optimism is laudable.

TOPIC #1:

Thoughts and feelings as they relate to gay marriage.

I want to understand better why it is some people would rather homosexuals not be allowed to marry. What thoughts and feelings come to mind when you see married homosexuals? How does it impact your feelings about traditional marriage?

Discuss.

You forgot 13ball, champstark, ctryi, LetsGambool, prana, rjoefish

Does anyone here oppose gay marriage? Lol at them.

Also, jmakin is a dick, but he's alright for a dick.

IDK, but there are like 100,000,000+ people in the States who do. I'd imagine some in PUC are against it but aren't comfortable sharing.

I don't oppose it. Sort of think marriage itself is an antiquated concept, but if people want to do it, can't see the harm. I do enjoy watching both sides claim the other is horribly evil, just like with abortion.

I don't enjoy watching them claim that. Obviously the people against are just stupid. Or religious. Which makes them stupid.

I think these types of comments make the environment hostile towards people who hold these opinions. I'm hoping to create a thread where alternative views can be shared without shaming.

I don't think being religious is inherently dumb, but I do think opposing gay marriage for religious reasons is an extra helping of dumb over simply opposing gay marriage. If you feel like the sanctity of marriage is threatened, the problem is that you let government get involved in the first place. Try not letting the government stick its fingers in your sanctified pies.

Yeah, I don't really enjoy it either, it's more the sort of sick and sad amusement that has drawn me to PU for awhile. Probably a German word for it.


Edit: And I don't think religious people are inherently stupid either, but I get what you mean.

Seriously? This is the most boring topic ever. Some people are ****** homophobes, and use a bunch of excuses to justify their opinion because it's not acceptable to just straight up be against gays anymore. There might be the occasional moron who is actually against it for some sort of non-hateful reason, super super rare and they are still morons.

Any conversation about this sort of stuff stopped being at all interesting in like 2011

Sure, I don't think the q**ers should marry. God himself said they shouldn't. Burn in hell sodomites!

Next topic

Honestly, there may not be. The people who are against gay marriage are a similar demographic to those who are against gambling. Not to mention this site is mostly 20 year olds.

I wouldn't say I am against gay marriage--the issue has pretty much zero impact on my voting choice--but I don't choose to disassociate myself from people in my life who are against it.