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Originally Posted by dereds
Okay but do 100% of the people who agree with one or more of the above qualify as SJWs?
Let's say that I consider privilege a useful concept, that my experience of the world is somehow related to certain facts about me, that my gender, ethnicity, class, sexual and gender identity all have some bearing on how I am treated. What is your objection? And what is so dangerous about my belief that these facts matter?
I wouldn't like to say 100% the other way around, no.
I have long-standing objections to the notion of
structural privilege as a concept because it functions like original sin.
Straight white men de facto in the wrong because they've even said a word and -- MOST importantly -- regardless of whether they have, in actuality, been the beneficiaries of "privilege". The average Donald Trump voter clearly didn't think so.
The biggest problem with all of it is that in the majority of cases, the identifier is actually a cipher for class and income.
A black guy who has been to Harvard, earns big money, and acts like a guy who has been to Harvard and earns big money will not be perceived in the same way as a black guy who acts like a gangster rapper.
Why would people have preconceptions based on that?
It just comes down to class, income, and growing up in a poor area associated with crime.
The black guy from the good in the USA and the white "chav" from the local council estate in the UK probably have a lot in common, AND they probably face the same amount of prejudice and assumptions about them based on their appearance (drawn from stereotyping).
Identity politics really *does not* get to the heart of this matter. It actually serves to reinforce the issue and insists on race and other markers as being demographic categories with meaning.
There is no wonder at all that working class white communities rejected this ideology thoroughly because no aspect of their lives bore out the claims being made about privilege.
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Now, you and I can have a sensible discussion around this. You might disagree and hold that there's still some value in the concept for reasons X, Y and Z.
I likely would not call you an SJW for this.
If, however, your response was built around accusing me of being a white supremacist or a "butt hurt white guy" or whatever, then I likely would call you an SJW.
Hope you can see this.