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02-15-2017 , 11:51 PM
Why do people like Wil not understand how dictionaries work?
02-15-2017 , 11:57 PM
Alt-right even wants to control the racial identity of dicks?
02-16-2017 , 12:00 AM
You think I'm alt-right, spank?
02-16-2017 , 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
No, dude. That doesn't work. I looked up the word cuckold, posted it for all to see, and the word "minority" wasn't in the ****ing definition. YOU threw in race, NOT ME. Again, YOU used the word "minority". Why did you do that? Because YOU have a perception of a person of a perceived lesser value (a "minority") is humiliating because they are having sex with "your" white woman?

See, this is the problem we have. I don't mean to pick on you but YOU are the one coming off racist here. I don't give a flying **** if some big dicked midget black man or a small dicked Yao Ming looking mfer ****ed my wife. YOUR SIDE throws in race. Race has NOTHING to do with it, yet that's all you people can talk about.

If my wife left me for an Asian woman I wouldn't walk around bragging about how happy I am she left me for an Asian lesbian over a "minority" male.

Think about things before you throw them out in the public forum. YOU are the one who has some hangup over a "minority" man having sex with a WHITE woman. The only thing I care about is who has sex with MY wife, who HAPPENS to be Asian.
I don't care how you use the word Wil. But if I were to look at the history of how the word is used in modern political usage I would undoubtedly notice the underlying racial undertones in how the word evolved and has been used by many people.
02-16-2017 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
But if I were to look at the history of how the word is used in modern political usage I would undoubtedly notice the underlying racial undertones in how the word evolved and has been used by many people.
You would undoubtedly notice the underlying racial undertones in a Hero sandwich.
02-16-2017 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
I don't care how you use the word Wil. But if I were to look at the history of how the word is used in modern political usage I would undoubtedly notice the underlying racial undertones in how the word evolved and has been used by many people.
I will leave this response to the judgment of the rest of the forum. I actually feel kind of bad that you had to write what you just wrote, because we both know it is a word salad that you hope will get you out of the corner you just painted yourself into.

You are the one with the racial hangups, not me. "Cuck" doesn't imply a minority ****ing my wife, but it does to you. Work on that.
02-16-2017 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by LordJvK
I do not ignore evidence of racial bias, but the cause of racial bias is economic more than anything else.

Take the study in freakonomics on names. Why are people prejudiced about made-up or mis-spelled names vs. names like "Emily Anderson"? It doesn't take a lot to figure out that it's because it suggests all sorts of things about their background, level of education, and so on and so forth. That's clearly still WRONG, but the root cause is class, not race.

I mean they did a study recently in the UK that showed that someone called Adam is 3 times more likely to get called for an interview than someone called Mohammed. Why is that? Is it because employers care that Adam's skin is white and Mohammed's is brown? No, it's because they associate the word Mohammed with a set of events and attitudes. Now, clearly still WRONG, but the root cause here again is not really race, but culture.

I am talking about the root causes of prejudice using data, not making blanket statements about lots of people.

Poor white people also face invisible prejudices. If you turn up to a job interview in a pair of trainers and your dad's old suit because you can't afford a new one, and you've got a regional accent, you are at immediate disadvantage to the guy who is in the prestine suit speaking the Queen's English in crystal clear tones.

Prejudice exists because of real conditions on the ground, and people drawing conclusions based on their experiences of them, or based on what they've been told about them.
Welcome to the thoughts that the progressives you despise are pretty much born with, and which you think you discovered as if you were clever. This is pretty much a starting point of studying racism and oppression.

Congratulations on being qualified to begin learning what all the "damn liberals" have been hashing out for the last 50 years.

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This gets much closer to an actual analysis of why these things happen than the hand waving gesture of saying "well X group has privilege and Y group are victims". That solves nothing, it actually just ends up making people of X group resent people of Y group more and vice versa.
There would seem to be enough resentment to go around as to not really mean anything too particular. When it was said that black people should have the right to vote, that ended up making whites quite resentful. But was that not a legitimate grievance? If so, if it is that voicing any grievance regardless of legitimacy causes resentment, then why worry about resentment?
02-16-2017 , 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
You think I'm alt-right, spank?
If you didn't find the joke funny, maybe. ( come on laugh with me)

Seriously though, It's okay in my book if you didn't know that particular aspect of some other folk's sex lives. What was once taboo, became a fetish, then became a porn category. Hopefully we are not in the midst of regressing back to any taboo around inter-racial relationships of any sort.
02-16-2017 , 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by spanktehbadwookie
If you didn't find the joke funny, maybe. ( come on laugh with me)
I meant it as a serious question. I have no animosity towards you, as I've advocated for you to be let back into this forum. I really wondered what you thought of me.

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Seriously though, It's okay in my book if you didn't know that particular aspect of some other folk's sex lives.
I care about my own sex life only. Other people can have their own sex lives, and I wish them the best with it.

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What was once taboo, became a fetish, then became a porn category. Hopefully we are not in the midst of regressing back to any taboo around inter-racial relationships of any sort.
I would think my thoughts on this subject would be understood as long as no one is being hurt. Think, talk, drink, eat, have sex. Not so much in that order, but to each his/her own.

Spoiler:
sex first
02-16-2017 , 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by wil318466
I will leave this response to the judgment of the rest of the forum. I actually feel kind of bad that you had to write what you just wrote, because we both know it is a word salad that you hope will get you out of the corner you just painted yourself into.

You are the one with the racial hangups, not me. "Cuck" doesn't imply a minority ****ing my wife, but it does to you. Work on that.
I honestly don't care Wil. I really don't. If you feel it's your duty to exculpate racial overtones out of everything I don't mind. It's not like people snicker at people using the word cuck because of the racial overtones but because, like PUA and 'neg', it indicates a clanish and insular clic of generally terrible people that trades in their own code words.

Last edited by Huehuecoyotl; 02-16-2017 at 12:58 AM.
02-16-2017 , 01:40 AM
Wil, your ignorance of the usage doesn't remove the implications the word carries the way people use it in the current climate. Sure the definition of the word remains the same, but using it in the derogatory way people are intending, it DOES carry the weight of racial tones with it. Instead of saying "oh ****, I didn't realize," you ignore the opportunity to make it a learning experience.
02-16-2017 , 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
I honestly don't care Wil. I really don't.
No, you really do. I think that's blatantly obvious to everyone who reads our exchange above.

You should think about what you said and work on it. You are the one with racial hang-ups, not me.
02-16-2017 , 01:41 AM
wil is so ****ing stupid he doesn't realize that the racialized element of "cuck" as an alt-right insult is coming FROM THE RIGHT, the metaphor is that cuck left-and-moderate whites are letting minorities rape our women by not opposing immigration.

The non-racial cuck is just like, an voyeurism fetish, there's no application to politics. We like to watch other people **** our wives? What does that have to do with taxes or immigration or health care?

Reading, wil! I know books are beyond your grade level but do you read ANYTHING besides 2p2 posts?

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02-16-2017 , 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
... do you read ANYTHING besides 2p2 posts?
I know it's nice to throw a bone once in awhile, but he ain't reading posts either.
02-16-2017 , 03:26 AM
During the fur trade of the early 1800s to the late 1840s in the Western United States, the word was spelled "niggur", and is often recorded in literature of the time. George Fredrick Ruxton used it in his "mountain man" lexicon, without pejorative connotation. "Niggur" was evidently similar to the modern use of "dude" or "guy". This passage from Ruxton's Life in the Far West illustrates the word in spoken form—the speaker here referring to himself: "Travler, marm, this niggur's no travler; I ar' a trapper, marm, a mountain-man, wagh!"[6] It was not used as a term exclusively for blacks among mountain men during this period, as Indians, Mexicans, and Frenchmen and Anglos alike could be a "niggur".[7] "The noun slipped back and forth from derogatory to endearing."[8]
02-16-2017 , 03:27 AM
TIL even a simple etymology lesson will trigger these deplorables' lawnmowers into the stratosphere.
02-16-2017 , 03:35 AM
http://therightstuff.biz/2016/03/29/cuck-is-our-racist/

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Then in 2015, something happened. A term was birthed from the alternative right to describe precisely this dysfunctional breed of rightist: “cuckservative,” a seemingly right-leaning politician or personality who sees fascism as the greatest threat to the West, is willing to flood his country with millions of Third Worlders in the name of free-market capitalism, and is always ready to sacrifice the lives of his countrymen to defend the violently anti-Western, socialist theocracy of Israel. The word, of course, was absolutely devastating. It was so powerful that cuckservative websites devoted time and effort to writing articles condemning the word, ironically using the cuckiest logic possible and only proving the alternative right correct. The term even made its way into the mainstream media, eventually getting onto MSNBC and Real Time with Bill Maher. Even now, using the word will get one banned from National Review’s comment section.

“Cuck” works for the same reason that “racist” works: it is an irrational word that cannot be deconstructed with reasoning. Just as “racist” hits rightists hard because it attempts to psychopathologize the healthy preference for our own race, “cuck” is devastating to leftists because they are being described as the most humiliating kind of man possible, one who gets aroused by letting another man—or other men—have sex with his wife. Leftists and conservatives are not literally cuckolds, they are simply traitors. However, just like “racism” transcends political terminology like “fascist” and brings morality into the discussion, “cuck” transcends political terminology like “traitor” and brings sexuality and gender into the discussion, thus widening its implications. For years this kind of transcendent, weaponized term was missing from the right’s lexicon, but now it’s here, and that’s why “cuck” is so hurtful to the left and kosher conservatives.
02-16-2017 , 03:44 AM
Ahahha I haven't busted out a quint in awhile but I had too.

Noted real liberal and ****face wil314 used that weak-ass dictionary that pops up at the top of google searches and thought, hot damn, now here's a gotcha, let me get my bold and underlines and italics working up in here.

That googletionary is the same reason these ****faces don't know what 'bigot' means.

lol
02-16-2017 , 04:36 AM
Hue is wrong, wil is right.
02-16-2017 , 05:49 AM
Lol at Cuck being a psychological semantic weapon.

Yea if you want to stab yourself.
02-16-2017 , 06:20 AM
People here are doing a fantastic job of being triggered by it.
02-16-2017 , 06:33 AM
You are confusing triggered, whatever that means, with absolute ridicule.

No one with any serious intellectual chops would ever roll with the word cuck, it immediately self identifies anyone using it as a moron.
02-16-2017 , 06:44 AM
02-16-2017 , 06:49 AM
Cool story bro, think its a while before your laughably bad reasoning starts boring me. I do find your super human hypocrisy slightly tedious tho.
02-16-2017 , 09:56 AM
From Radix Journal:

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"CUCKSERVATIVE," A DEFINITION

Very basically, the cuckservative is a white gentile conservative (or libertarian) who thinks he’s promoting his own interests but really isn’t. In fact, the cuckservative is an extreme universalist and seems often to suffer from ethnomasochism & pathological altruism. In short, a cuckservative is a white (non-Jewish) conservative who isn’t racially aware.

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The cuckservative is often fanatically in favor of transracial adoption. He sees it as some divine calling. In a sense, this is cuckoldry at its essence, since these whites are usually forgoing their own inclusive fitness to adopt someone from another race. As Heartiste notes, they’re race-cucking their own families.

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On the other hand, the idea of whites acting as a group to secure their own interests terrifies the cuckservative. If you ever want to troll a cuckservative, just repeatedly use the word “white,” such as “this isn’t beneficial for the white community.” The cuckservative will be triggered immediately.
So are wil and Lord whitewashing the racial aspects of the term "cuck" because they are ignorant or because they, like Milo, want to support white nationalists as much as they can while maintaining plausible deniability?

      
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